8/7/14: TTA Peoplemover Changes Color

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    Originally Posted By mrkthompsn

    <They use something very like iPads on Star Trek.>... and Star Wars, and 2001
     
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    Originally Posted By mrkthompsn

    https://robert.accettura.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/star_wars_tablet_computer-620x263.jpg
     
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    Originally Posted By mrkthompsn

    https://robert.accettura.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/star_wars_tablet_computer-620x263.jpg
     
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    Originally Posted By mrkthompsn

    ack! impossible-to-delete double post.
     
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    Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA

    Heck - EPCOT Center in Future World had the kiosks at the exit to Spaceship Earth where you spoke to a person on a TV screen to make restaurant reservations and get other information.

    You could see them - they could see you. Seemed very cutting edge at the time.
     
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    Originally Posted By xrayvision

    Are they done painting? I thought they were going to paint the whole ride entrance red and orange, doing away with the blue and white all together. Instead, we have orange, red, blue, chrome, white and light blue. That's a lot of colors...lol. If you took out the orange and left the rest, it would look very patriotic.
     
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    Originally Posted By FerretAfros

    I believe they are done painting. To change the color of the TTA vehicles they would need completely new fiberglass shells, so I would assume they're going to stay the same. Even though there's a lot of different colors at play, it seems like they all work together pretty well. There are tons of colors on the buildings of Adventureland and Main Street and nobody seems to have any problems with that; as long as they're thoughtfully chosen, I see no reason that Tomorrowland can't be full of color as well
     
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    Originally Posted By oc_dean

    >>I blame Dean.<<

    By the way ... I would have never approved that paint job. That's just butt ugly!

    Perhaps the basic colors are alright ... but there are a ton of various shades that would have been more appealing ... such as this shade of orange...

    <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://versident.com/2014-toyota-corolla-orange-wallpaper/2014-toyota-corolla-orange-wallpaper/">http://versident.com/2014-toyo...llpaper/</a>

    This land's remodeling in 1994 was to take on the "robotic/metallic" science fiction schemes ... from science fiction visionaries and writers of the 1920s and 30s. (Buck Rogers, Metropolis). Today ... Disney has applied slap stick toony humor .. with Stitch, Monsters Inc, and Buzz Lightyear .... on top of that 20s/30s view of the future.

    Now they throw on these particular shades of orange and red. Because they are under a rooftop ... the sun isn't going to shine on them ... So how do they light up at night?

    It's just proof Disney/WDI have no ability to attempt a cohesive look and design for a land. It's this hodgepodge look ... that is rampant in DL's TL. And now designers are applying this random approach with WDW's TL.

    Anyway ... it's just the station. But if it were up to me ... I would have fabricated large metal pieces and apply a 'metalic' paint finish ... the way cars are done ... with lights at night ... it would look cool. What they've down now ... just looks bland.

    ick!

    And before I opened up the topic ... I actually thought they had painted the vehicles. That would have been news. Not the station.

    Like this concept art piece from the early 70s ....

    <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://webcot.free.fr/articles/futur/tomorrowland-70.jpg">http://webcot.free.fr/articles...d-70.jpg</a>

    The PM trains have their own individual colors.

    Having the station have colors that "pop" mean's little. Having 'color' moving along that highway in the sky ... that's kinetic energy. The kind I like. Not one monotonous color which reaps of blandness.

    I'd like to know WDI's reason to switch to vehicles that were all blue.
     
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    Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt

    "By the way ... I would have never approved that paint job. That's just butt ugly!"

    Thank you!

    "Perhaps the basic colors are alright ... but there are a ton of various shades that would have been more appealing ... such as this shade of orange..."

    Exactly. The issue I have with what they've done is that it's just plain old paint. The right thing would have been to add texture or shine using some kind of high-tech specialized material, otherwise just leave it alone.
     
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    Originally Posted By RoadTrip

    But it will probably look nice when lit at night. Which is really the main thing TL has going for it anyway. That is still more than DL Tomorrowland has going for it. At least WDW has the PeopleMover and Carousel of Progress.
     
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    Originally Posted By FerretAfros

    >>Having the station have colors that "pop" mean's little. Having 'color' moving along that highway in the sky ... that's kinetic energy. The kind I like. Not one monotonous color which reaps of blandness.<<

    With the giant metal panels they have on the railings up there, I'm not sure you could really see the colors anyway. Whenever I look up there, it just seems like there are people who somehow float along the track. If they really wanted the look of the trains to pop, they'd have to open up with viewlines so you can actually see them go by
     
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    Originally Posted By RoadTrip

    ^^^
    Which current safety regulations would probably not allow them to do.
     
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    Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt

    "But it will probably look nice when lit at night. Which is really the main thing TL has going for it anyway. That is still more than DL Tomorrowland has going for it."

    DL's TL looks good at night too, and it has Star Tours, which gives it 2 certified E tickets. Then there's the Monorail and the Subs, which are vintage attractions from TL's heyday, and The Autopia is better themed and has newer cars than the Raceway. With all that said, both TLs equally fail to meet expectations IMO.
     
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    Originally Posted By hopemax

    I miss John Hench.
     
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    Originally Posted By RoadTrip

    Star Tours is a great attraction and a definite 'E', but I have never considered it a good fit for TL. I far prefer it being at the Studios in FL, and am happy to see that a future mini-Star Wars land looks for sure like it will be built in the Studios and not WDW's TL. Of course most TL attractions today aren't a good fit for the area either, so I guess I shouldn't complain.

    Never liked the subs... I am just too claustrophobic to enjoy them.

    DL's Tomorrowland isn't bad to look at in the evening, but I prefer the color scheme at WDW's TL. So much at DL is also at ground level, except for the garish whatzit at the entrance and the bizarre antenna farm on top of the counter-service food place. WDW's TL has the People Mover and the Rocket Jets up high where they belong, giving some upper level interest to the area. I guess it comes down to whatever you are used to.
     
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    Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt

    "Of course most TL attractions today aren't a good fit for the area either..."

    That's kind of my overall gripe about TL today. Nothing about the concept as it's presented at either resort makes any sense.

    "Never liked the subs... "

    Me neither, although if one is going to ride the nostalgia bandwagon with the Peoplemover and COP then the Subs and DL Monorail are about as vintage Disney as one can get and have about as much to do with future technology as an escalator.

    "WDW's TL has the People Mover and the Rocket Jets up high where they belong, giving some upper level interest to the area. I guess it comes down to whatever you are used to."

    There's no contest in my mind which of the Tomorrowland's is better. To me they both suck,
     
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    Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt

    "I miss John Hench."

    Makes you wonder how someone with his design sensibilities and talent would fare at WDI today. Is the talent lacking or is it because the managers are clueless?
     
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    Originally Posted By FerretAfros

    >>Star Tours is a great attraction and a definite 'E', but I have never considered it a good fit for TL.<<

    I completely agree. The first film begins with the text "Long ago..." which is never a good sign for a futuristic land. Plus it just sort of feels like a cop-out

    >>So much at DL is also at ground level...<<

    It also doesn't help that the old PM track is still sitting there, visually enclosing the main promenade area, making it feel even smaller and more earth-bound. If they could demolish that, it would at least encourage some bigger vistas, even if they kept the central platform intact

    >>Makes you wonder how someone with his design sensibilities and talent would fare at WDI today. Is the talent lacking or is it because the managers are clueless?<<

    I can't help but think it's a higher-level decision. You can find talented people in any large organization, but they're only allowed to be as good as the projects they're assigned. Although I still contend that Carsland is a terrible thematic choice, it's done impeccably. When they're given proper resources, it seems like they really know what they're doing. I'd love to see what the current crop of Imagineers could do with a completely original concept like the old Epcot pavilions, but that sadly seems extremely unlikely in the current management environment
     
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    Originally Posted By oc_dean

    >>So much at DL is also at ground level...<<

    I keep hoping this problem will be addressed at DL's TL at some point. It's been a complete regression. Going from TL67 back to the 1 single "ground level" it's devolved back to - Pre 1966.
     
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    Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt

    "Although I still contend that Carsland is a terrible thematic choice, it's done impeccably."

    Clearly WDI has the skills and talent to deliver over the top thematic lands based on fantasy. What I'm not so sure they can do though is produce a authentic narrative based on science fact and fiction. Certainly not as convincingly as Walt Disney and WED did in the late 60s through the early 80s. The best we can hope for is a TL as highly detailed and immersive as Carsland themed to either Marvel, Star Wars, etc. Disney is more than capable of blowing everyone's mind with something like that versus trying to produce today's version of TL '67 or Epcot Center.

    >>So much at DL is also at ground level...<<

    Aside from the Astro Orbiter (or whatever it's called) and the Peoplemover, what else is on "the second level" WDW? Shouldn't the Monorail, the second level interior and exterior of Innoventions, and the mezzanine above the Magic Eye Theater count as being "the second level" at DL?
     

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