Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>...my impression when I was there that much of it looked just as it did back in the 70s when I visited as a kid.<< Pretty much, except the trees are taller. The front of Tomorrowland got its upgrade in the early 90's, but the eastern and northern parts of the land are still sporting the "great big beautiful tomorrow" sort of look. Main Street and Adventureland, although set in other eras, definitely have a strong basis in the late 60's/early 70's aesthetic. It's a subtle thing, but definitely enough that it looks dated despite representing a timeless concept.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I finally read the update. I'm fascinated by the work being done to construct the Mine Train I'm wondering what the budget was for this attraction and why has it taken so long to build. At the pace their going it'll be another year before it opens.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance Maybe they are trying to open it at the same time as something else that's opening at another park, or trying to open it as a pull for the next summer season.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Other than a few concept drawings and about 5,000 construction pics what do we know about this ride? Obviously it's a family coaster and there will be a handful of show scenes, but on the thrill scale will it be like Big Thunder, Space Mountain or Barnstormer?
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: The Imagineers we talked with said there will only be ONE indoor show scene. That's what has us so worried in Morva.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>on the thrill scale will it be like Big Thunder, Space Mountain or Barnstormer?<< I am guessing this will be a good newbie coaster -- fun for little ones but not a real white-knuckler. But watching the construction process on this is interesting -- you compare it to how quickly they constructed the whole of Disneyland back then, with how long it takes to construct a single attraction today. No wonder they cost a trillion dollars each!
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance Must be frustrating for the workers involved to have to move in slow motion all of the time.
Originally Posted By oc_dean I'm just now learning this ride will have a whopping number of ONE showroom scene. I was hoping it would have a few. It should have a few. All this hype for the ride .. all this time it's taking to build what is going to be something of a C ticket .. maybe a D at the very best.... meanwhile over at Universal..... Diagon Alley... Lorax ride .... Jurrasic Park ..... Uni & Disney flipped sides. The New Disney is now the old Uni ... and the New Uni is now the old Disney.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "I was hoping it would have a few. It should have a few." I agree. I was sort hoping for something like the new Grizzly coaster in HK, but a little tamer, obviously. "All this hype for the ride .. all this time it's taking to build what is going to be something of a C ticket .. maybe a D at the very best...." What hype? And what's wrong with C and D tickets rides? Especially in Fantasyland. "meanwhile over at Universal....." Oh Lord, here we go....
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance Asking me to be excited for a Lorax attraction, is like asking me to be excited at getting a look at Danny Devito in a fuzzy orange robe.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Hans, do I need to strap you into your chair?" No. I'm fine here in this corner sucking my thumb.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros My impression was always that this attraction was aiming to be roughly a D ticket. The single show scene has always been a disappointing feature, but a reality of building it on a parcel that is surrounded on every side; frankly I'm impressed that they were able to fit the show scene and vehicle maintenance bay in/under the mountain, but would still have prefered to see more From my understanding, it's intended to be family friendly, but with the extra element of the swinging cars, they don't really know that the height requirement will be, or how scary the end result may be. The track design is pretty tame, so I doubt there will be too much swinging And the slow construction compared to DL is based on a couple different aspects. Obviously, there are significantly more building codes and construction regulations (yes, even in Reedy Creek) than there were in the 1950's. Additionally, it's much tougher to build in the center of a working theme park than it is to build in an empty orange grove, or even build an addition on the outskirts of a working theme park (like Mermaid); when access (and possibly working hours) to the site is limited, it's going to slow things down. And perhaps most importantly, this structure is much more complex than anything that they had at DL on opening day; those buildings were all warehouses with facades slapped on the sides and the rockwork was crude at best, while this entire mountain and the complex attraction (at least compared to DL55) within have all sorts of unusual angles and surfaces to contend with
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "From my understanding, it's intended to be family friendly, but with the extra element of the swinging cars" *perks up* I forgot about the swinging cars.
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>What hype? << How about the hype Disney themselves put into the whole renovation - as THE NEW FANTASYLAND ... "this massive EXPANSION ... better than slice bread" hype. OR.... The hype of all of us online fans hoping it would be Fantasyland's "bread winner" attraction. Since the line-up of new offerings is rather skittish. >>And what's wrong with C and D tickets rides? Especially in Fantasyland.<< I'm all for C & D tickets. After all, I grew up with Anaheim's 'C-ticket haven' Fantasyland. But when the last E Ticket to come to WDW's magic kingdom park was 1992, over 20 years - One would think they would have planned for one killer E ticket that would go into their much publicly hyped "MAJOR NEW EXPANDED FANTASYLAND" ... but rather what does the newly designed Fantasyland have? The "D" ticket Little Mermaid ride .. and that's it! Until the mine coaster is built. 2 Dumbos don't constitute a MAJOR Attraction. A meet & greet doesn't either. Online fans can geek out to the smaller details that the entire land does have - But in terms of net gain in actual physical attractions - The line up is just: Little Mermaid and the Mine Coaster. If they didn't reduce the old Snow White ride into a meet and greet hall .. put the hall somewhere else, that would be one C Ticket ride through facility Fantasyland would still have. (That's a net loss.) And instead of holding on to the tents that were part of Toon Town .. turned that location into the new land's one and only New E Ticket offering(in addition to the land's only other E Ticket - it's a small world). WDW is increasingly becoming LAUGHABLE! While I'm applauding Universal's attempt to step up their game.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "WDW is increasingly becoming LAUGHABLE!" That's not the only thing that's laughable.
Originally Posted By oc_dean When was your last trip to WDW, Hans? And how many times have you gone in the last 10 or so years?
