Originally Posted By davewasbaloo BrnardM - it's a retheming of the sun wheel to put a giant Mickeymouse head on it. Any one fed up of the toonfestation of Disney parks lately?
Originally Posted By BlueOhanaTerror I don't like the "toonfestation" either. But the Mickey head IS period (albeit the late 20's to mid-30's) and frankly it's one of the most appealing, iconic images anywhere. I have to admit, I find it much more friendly/sunny than a stylized "sun" - even if it doesn't say "California."
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo No, I see where you are coming from Blue. But for me, the Sun Wheel design is spot on, and is also done in a victorian style. I just find the Mouse gratuitus in this context. I really do feel WDI has totally lost the plot.
Originally Posted By jonvn The sun wheel design was great, and you can tell how well it was received by all the photos that have been taken of it. It's pretty iconic on its own. The mouse face is not going to be a positive addition. It will be a change though. And that's all that matters, I guess, change. I think a lot of this was strictly politics and had little to do with actual quality.
Originally Posted By dshyates I believe the change is because of the need to include elements of the World of color show. Think about it, They are going t with a nostalgic look at Walts career including the theme music from the show. I would imagine at some point in the show the Mickey face will be used complete with music and lighting fx to replicate the biginning of the cartoons for a mickey segment or some such inclusion.
Originally Posted By jonvn Yes, someone somewhere said it was going to be part of the water show they are doing. Which makes me think of laser beams of death coming out of mickey's eyes . Or maybe searchlights going through the crowd. When the light settles on you, black helicopters will come out, ninjas will drop down, and take you away. This is how the new Year of a Million Dreams is going to work.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >> When the light settles on you, black helicopters will come out, ninjas will drop down, and take you away. << Well, if it's good enough for Six Flags...
Originally Posted By disneywatcher If the Blueskydisney site is correct, then most of the major alterations to the park are going to take longer to be implemented than I originally thought would be true. With all the recent publicity about DCA being a "dud," and the inconvenience that will be caused by future construction -- particularly to the total rebuilding of the front plaza, which means DCA will be similar to a house that's undergoing remodeling while the family still is living in it -- I'm assuming the DisCo is banking on the new Toy Story Mania attraction to get them through the lull. As for DCA's ferris wheel, such a ride always will give the park a generic look and quality, so whether the wheel has a sun face or Mickey face slapped on it, it will continue to radiate a "Six Flags Over Anaheim" schlockiness. However, the Mailboomer and Orange Stinger -- although not as tall and therefore visible far and wide -- are much worse.
Originally Posted By PetesDraggin I happen to like the look of the sun wheel and think it adds personality to PP. The addition of the Mickey face will make it seem more Disney, which is the one thing I find lacking at DCA. I think DCA is a great place and I love going there, but it just doesn't feel like a Disney park. Will the addition of all the toon stuff change this feeling? I don't know, but I have a feeling it will.
Originally Posted By jonvn "As for DCA's ferris wheel, such a ride always will give the park a generic look and quality" Have you ever been to DCA?
Originally Posted By disneywatcher ^ No. In fact I only started posting to laughingplace.com last week. Also, I don't believe I've ever seen your screen name before. I'm guessing you started discussing Disney parks in minutiae -- and also going on and on and on about Al Lutz -- just within the past few months? By the way, is DCA in Anaheim or Orlando?
Originally Posted By disneywatcher ^ Uh-huh! How did you know!?? You should be a private investigator!
Originally Posted By BrnardM >BrnardM - it's a retheming of the sun wheel to put a giant Mickeymouse head on it<< Here's the thing I don't get, on some of the released maps Mickey's Fun Wheel is connected to a hilighted section over be the line for Screamin', too far east for the current wheel. Also, note this quote from bluesky disney: "The Sun Wheel is currently scheduled to be completed around this time as well, although construction on it may drag a bit. Mickey's Fun Wheel should be done by the end of 2008 unless the current plans change." The Sun Wheel and Mickey's Fun Wheel are mentioned seperately. Simply changing the name makes sense but it sounds like there is more going on here.
Originally Posted By EighthDwarf I agree - it was poorly written. The first sentence refers to a change in the Sun Wheel. The second sentence refers to (presumably) the new name of the Sun Wheel, Mickey's Fun Wheel, and the target fate for the completed changes referenced in sentence one. "The Sun Wheel is also undergoing some changes and will be known as Mickey's Fun Wheel upon the targeted completion date of late 2008." Is this any better?
Originally Posted By 2001DLFan <<PetesDraggin: I happen to like the look of the sun wheel and think it adds personality to PP. The addition of the Mickey face will make it seem more Disney, which is the one thing I find lacking at DCA. I think DCA is a great place and I love going there, but it just doesn't feel like a Disney park. Will the addition of all the toon stuff change this feeling? I don't know, but I have a feeling it will>> Disney parks have never been celebrated for their characters. People look to Disney parks for the uniqueness, level of detail, cutting edge attractions and overall quality. If character identification were required for acceptance, they’d have them everywhere. But they don’t. For the most part, character inclusion (especially Mickey) has been done very carefully and subtly. Hidden Mickey’s are so unobtrusive that people relish them when they find one. Outside of those in the attractions and the occasional walk around characters, Disney has been VERY sparing with the use of characters in the parks. And when they have used character elements in the past (Spaceship Earth Mickey Hand, Sorcerer’s hat in Disney/MGM Studio, etc.) But, for Disney to just start putting up huge character images, negating the overall themeing enhancement they have been trying to accomplish, just appears to be counterproductive.
Originally Posted By 2001DLFan <<BrnardM: >BrnardM - it's a retheming of the sun wheel to put a giant Mickeymouse head on it<< Here's the thing I don't get, on some of the released maps Mickey's Fun Wheel is connected to a hilighted section over be the line for Screamin', too far east for the current wheel. Also, note this quote from bluesky disney: "The Sun Wheel is currently scheduled to be completed around this time as well, although construction on it may drag a bit. Mickey's Fun Wheel should be done by the end of 2008 unless the current plans change." The Sun Wheel and Mickey's Fun Wheel are mentioned seperately. Simply changing the name makes sense but it sounds like there is more going on here.>> There is construction for the Sun Wheel that is adding some Victorian themeing elements to the ride. The Times had a map of DCA that mislabeled the location of the Sun Wheel, which may have caused some confusion along the line. The map was apparently provided by Disney, which means someone in Disney’s marketing/PR isn’t all that knowledgeable about DCA.
