Originally Posted By DAR Was it the major panic that was expected? Was the amount of bees that came so extreme so that we didn't have sunlight for days? Not at all. We're fed this stuff every year and I'm not biting, sorry.
Originally Posted By CrouchingTigger >>Was the amount of bees that came so extreme so that we didn't have sunlight for days?<< Watch bad sci-fi movies much?
Originally Posted By DAR Sometimes. I hate to repeat myself but you can only hear so much about how blank is bad for you, this (insert cataclysmic weather event) is going to be the worst ever. Eventually the effect wears off and just becomes a little numbing.
Originally Posted By DVC_dad As for the original topic,,, I don't really see ANYTHING at all that I can do about global warming, therefore, I find that I am not really concerned either way. Is this bad?
Originally Posted By DAR Well it depends. Do you have a recycle bin at your home? I'll separate the newspapers, garbage and cans when I remember to. That's the extent of my "helping the earth."
Originally Posted By jonvn You can actually do more, by making sure your congressman and your other elected leaders do not ignore the situation. You might find it worthwhile to do something about the world your children will grow up and live in.
Originally Posted By mrichmondj << I don't really see ANYTHING at all that I can do about global warming, therefore, I find that I am not really concerned either way. Is this bad? >> It is a bit disconcerting. What if, as individuals, we took that same idea about space exporation, scientific research into curing disease, and any number of technological innovations? A society that does not believe that the collective contributions of individuals can amount to achievements that go well beyond the scope of any individual achievement is not bound to accomplish any amount of success. It's also reflective of our society in the United States today. We rarely do anything innovative anymore. I get the feeling that parents have higher aspirations for their children to be the next American Idol moreso than an astronaut, Nobel prize winning chemist, or philosophical genius.
Originally Posted By DVC_dad ^ ^ ^ You had me until you said "philosophical genius" as that is an oxymoron.
Originally Posted By DAR Yep here it is global warming: <a href="http://www.todaystmj4.com/weather/cameras" target="_blank">http://www.todaystmj4.com/weat her/cameras</a>
Originally Posted By DAR How am I being ridiculous? It's the coldest April in over 100 years here, we're supposed to get 6-10 inches in the area. And I'm supposed to believe at face value that global warming exsists. And it's like this across most of the Midwest. At the very least we need to keep studying this.
Originally Posted By DAR THIS WEEK (8-14 APR): Last year was record warm, this year record cold! April is currently tracking as the coldest April in 113 years - a dramatic change from last years #1 warmest ever. Even after some late month moderation, April 2007 will likely keep the month in the top 7 coldest in history. The Southwest is the one exception, but even here temperatures will cool dramatically late in the week. And, the snow is not over! Short range computer models hint at the possibility of a stronger snow storm from Colorado to Wisconsin late in the week into the weekend. This will be the heavy wet variety. The week overall is expected to show the greatest change toward wetter weather in two years - another very big negative for retail sales and for early planting of this years Corn and Bean crop. Weather Trends had forecast this to be the coldest April in 7 years and the wettest in 3 years. It will very likely be the coldest in 10 years and wettest in three.†<a href="http://www.agweb.com/get_article.aspx?pageid=135336&src=gennews" target="_blank">http://www.agweb.com/get_artic le.aspx?pageid=135336&src=gennews</a> Again I'm being ridiculous
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <How am I being ridiculous? It's the coldest April in over 100 years here, we're supposed to get 6-10 inches in the area. And I'm supposed to believe at face value that global warming exsists.> Good grief. I thought you understood that one season in one location tells one ZIPPO about global climate change. Even if the US as a whole had a colder winter than normal (and I'm not sure that's true - I know January here was quite warm for January), it's still just the US, and it's still just one year. To think that data so puny means anything at all in the larger scheme of things is to not understand how these things work.
Originally Posted By mrichmondj So, after a week and a half, this is the coldest April on record? What a joke. This is ridiculous. Also, if you look at average hi/lo/record temperatures for any city on weather.com, you'll see that the current cold snap is nowhere near record low temperatures for most cities across the country. Where this 113 year low came from is beyond me.
Originally Posted By DAR Fine you guys win, I'll accept global warming because I'm told to. I won't read additional findings on this because clearly those are wrong. So from now on I will just agree with what you guys say because you're all right.
Originally Posted By jonvn You should accept it because that is what scientists around the world are telling us is happening. "Additional findings" that are peer reviewed and authentic will not tell you any different.
Originally Posted By DAR And I sure hope I can make it home safely tonight what with all the snow on the road and the visiblity being extremely low. I'd like to continue agreeing with everything you guys write down.
Originally Posted By tiggertoo Dar, What is ridiculous is that you are using a microcosm to dispute a global climatological event; global warming is a measure of global mean temperature (which is rising fast) not localized cold or warm spells. <a href="http://www.arctic.noaa.gov/detect/global-temps.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.arctic.noaa.gov/det ect/global-temps.shtml</a> This is what has most scientists concerned. In fact, as I recall, many scientists predicted erratic cold and warm trend as a result of global climate change, but the overall trend is one of swift warming—I don’t know one scientist who disputes the warming trend. The one hang up seems to be whether man is or isn’t a cause. The quicker you learn that, you’ll understand why your “dispute†is under such scrutiny.
