A Note to Conservatives and Bible-Believers

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    Originally Posted By mele

    <<Captain Caveman and JabberJaws>>

    Hahaha! I can totally hear the caveman yell and the theme song to JabberJaws right now. For awhile Cartoon Network played all of those old cartoons. I miss them.
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    <a href="http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/tv_shows/boomerang/" target="_blank">http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/...omerang/</a>
     
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    Originally Posted By mele

    Unfortunately, we don't get Boomerang in our area although there are a few shows OnDemand.
     
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    Originally Posted By barboy

    Something just hit me:

    my two favorite theme songs from television are from the black shows FA and Sanford & Son. Actually, 'What's Happening' and 'Good Times' had cool tunes too, but not the Jeffersons or Cosby Show.
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    <Interestingly, I don't think LP is nearly the "liberal bastion" people make it out to be. I can see why it seems that way, but knowing some posters outside these walls so to speak you'd be surprised at how many are quite moderate, and several are even Republicans though they don't mention it here.>

    That's exactly right.

    I think WE seems more liberal in general than it actually is primarily because we've all had 8 years of a disastrous presidency - it's not just liberals who think so; independents and moderate Republicans tend to think so too. And WE is probably a pretty good microcosm of the country as a whole, given that 70% disapprove of Bush and a full 82% think we're on the wrong track. So if it seems sometimes like a bash-fest of Bush and/or his GOP supporters and/or the neocon philosophy, it's actually pretty representative of the country as a whole, to whom all those things are very unpopular right now.

    I think if Obama is elected, and inevitably does things worthy of criticism and starts getting criticized not only by Republicans but also the many moderates here and Democrats too, if we deserves it, WE suddenly won't seem so liberal any more.
     
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    Originally Posted By RC Collins

    Well, here I am again. I’m sure you were all worried that I had left forever ;-)

    I didn’t see anything in this thread that persuaded me that getting into long, drawn-out arguments here isn’t a waste of time, especially for Bible-believers and conservatives.

    Dabob2 had a worthwhile contribution, pointing out that since Bush has been President for seven and a half years now, political discussion is more apt to include criticism of his performance, positions, etc. For some (not all! probably not most!), it is simply a matter of what I liken to blaming volcano eruptions on not having thrown in a virgin. If someone’s life isn’t going the way they like, they may blame the President. Now, the President does have the power to screw our lives up. For example, the President can mess up the economy by signing new regulations and higher taxes into law (but it takes Congress to send those to the President), but the President can do very little to improve the economy, other than helping to reduce regulations and taxes. It is still up to people to produce, invest, and spend. Chances are, if you’re life is not going well, it really isn’t the President’s fault.

    FWIW, while I am more favorable towards Bush than not, I have my own beefs with his administration. Bush is not really a conservative, but we knew this going back to the primaries for the 2000 election. People have problems with “No Child Left Behind†– my problem is federal government involvement with education, period. Bush has signed off on too much spending that has nothing to do with the main Constitutional functions of the federal government, such as national defense. His strongest conservative success has been appointments to the SCOTUS. Another huge success has been that we haven’t had a major terrorist attack on our soil since 9/11, but that is not a “political†success, simply a success.

    His administration has been pretty lackluster about defending itself.

    Still, I’m glad it has been Bush there and not Gore or Kerry. I wouldn’t expect most people on the left to agree.

    Anyway, most of the responses in this thread that were on-topic were essentially criticizing my tone, not addressing the issue I raised.

    It is easy to keep the time you invest here minimal when your response is essentially “you believe in fairy tales†and you don’t address the issue being discussed or the arguments being used; when you don’t point out the flaw in the actual argument or counter the argument with another one, with examples or facts.

    I try to think through differing opinions here carefully and offer substantial responses attempting to explain why I disagree – or agree. My original point is that I suspected I was wasting my time in doing so – not because I was always wrong, but because I doubted that many, if any people were truly willing to consider that just maybe I had logical and real reasons for my position.

    Nothing about this thread changed my perception. So, while I may pop up, I’m going to try to avoid getting into slogan-shouting matches that accomplish nothing. I do feel that some here are owed further explanation on the marriage issue, and so I will subsequently be making several posts on that in new threads – not to even try to convince someone that I’m not a bigot, but to explain exactly what my position is and why. Maybe I will gain a new perspective from the responses and someone will point something out to me that I hadn’t considered before. Maybe not.
     
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    Originally Posted By mele

    Well, gee, thanks for doing us the favor of explaining your positions. It's so important that we learn what they are even though you say you aren't going to waste your time debating them.

    Why the need to explain yourself to us at all? If you don't want to participate on LP, why should we care at all?
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    <Anyway, most of the responses in this thread that were on-topic were essentially criticizing my tone, not addressing the issue I raised.>

    Well, no, most of them (especially early on before the thread branched out as they often do) criticized your faulty premise and the faulty way that you characterized the people who post here. I won't repeat my #9, but it sums up what I thought about #1.
     
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    Originally Posted By mele

    Apparently RC is going to use LP as his own personal little blog. Too lazy to have a blog of your own, RC?
     

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