Originally Posted By disneyland1 wow. now we are gonna bring the President into THIS disscussion? SOOOOOOOOOO doesn't fit here. hhhmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Originally Posted By gottaluvdavillains Sorry DL1 just trying to make light of a rediculous situation - this isn't really a man having a baby - it's a woman who decided to change parts of her body because she felt she should be a man - but still wanted to give birth? Isn't that the ultimate female desire?
Originally Posted By disneyland1 noooooooooooo....... I was kidding, also ! No offense at all ! I agree with you ! (((gottaluvdavillains)))
Originally Posted By gottaluvdavillains Okay just didn't want to step on anyones dreams of being either the president or changing their bodies!! ;0)
Originally Posted By disneyland1 LOL..... that's fine. I am ok with being me, (ALL woman) *smiles* and I have NOOOOOOOOOOO desire to be Prez. WOW. I'd rather have a root canal with NO funny gas than take THAT job !LOL
Originally Posted By disneyland1 and I agree totally..... WHY the HECK are they calling *IT* a MAN????? I just do not get it. It is truly rediculious. What is happening to the world ?!!!!
Originally Posted By ShivaThDestroyer The world can be an awful strange place and as I've gotten older I hope I've learned to be a little less judgmental. I have no problem with this couple, even though the term womb-man has bounced around in my head a few times. It doesn't seem like they're hurting anyone and we have no evidence that this couple would be bad parents. They may face a few more problems than a traditional couple but hopefully those can be overcome. I'm much more bothered by the sensationalism surrounding this that anything else. I would think that, because of the controversial nature of the gender question that this couple would want people to respect their privacy and protect the future of their unborn child.
Originally Posted By dshyates "WHY the HECK are they calling *IT* a MAN?????" Well, if you say "A very manly woman got pregnant." It isn't gonna draw viewers.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <But just because someone chooses to dress inappropriately,> "We're born naked. After that, it's all drag." - RuPaul :0
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Hmmmm, I have been mulling this one over in my head for a while (and thinking about child welfare impacts here). Here are some of my conclusions: 1. She/he is not a man nor woman. This person chose to be heamaphrodite, which is totally sitting on the fence in my book. So really I find this one quite strange. Having been friends of transgendered folks, I can understand their situations (including a friend of mine born with a penis, but with female genes). This case I find difficult to comprehend. 2. I am worried about the medical welfare of this baby. Afterall the "host" had so much testostrone to become a "man". Pregnancy requires a huge amount of estrogen. What will this biochemical conflict do for the health and safety of the baby and the "host". 3. Social impact - oh my, this kid is going to have such a hard time. I am predicting mental health issues later in life sadly (many kids with same sex parents go through this too - there are studies being carried out as we speak to see what that means). In my books, live and let live, whatever consenting adults want to do etc. But this one seems pretty messed up to me.
Originally Posted By gottaluvdavillains <I would think that, because of the controversial nature of the gender question that this couple would want people to respect their privacy and protect the future of their unborn child> I agree this should have been a private thing to protect the child - BUT they were the ones who went on Oprah!! They brought the attention to all of this not anyone else!!
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Yeah, that's what I don't like about this story, too. I'd have no problem if this was someone in the middle of sex-reassignment who suddenly decided "wait - I really want kids and my wife can't have them any more, but I still can..." and made the decision only on that basis. It would have just quietly happened, and we'd never have heard about it, or read it in a footnote somewhere. But now, contacting Oprah and all that it seems like they may have been thinking "Hey, you know... I'm legally a man now... I could be 'the world's first pregnant man.' There's a story in there!" Consciously or unconsciously, it seems like they're looking for their 15 minutes (and maybe someone tempted them with a book deal, or who knows what). Perhaps I'm reading this wrong, but if they were the ones to contact Oprah, maybe not.
Originally Posted By gottaluvdavillains I don't think it matters who contacted who - what matters is they went on the show!!
Originally Posted By DAR About a few years ago we had an individual who worked on my floor different department who was undergoing a sex change operation. According to people in (now) her department his wife threatned to leave him for another woman. So to be with his wife he decided to take the necessary steps to become a woman. (S)He finishes the process and guess what happened? His wife decided yeah I don't want to be with you regardless of who you are. I don't have any idea how she didn't go completely and totally batcrap crazy and just completely throttle her ex-spouse is beyond me.
Originally Posted By imadisneygal What I want to know is what psychologist recommended surgery on someone who was changing their gender in order to stay with a spouse. And what surgeon performed the surgery. Doing so in a case where the person is not truly transgendered is completely irresponsible. There is a very long, complex process involved in sex reassignment surgery and the reason should not involve "but my wife wants to be with a woman!" Ridiculous.
Originally Posted By mele Yeah, it sounds like this guy went to some place really, really disreputable or he's not giving all of the facts.
Originally Posted By gottaluvdavillains Okay men out there - no matter how much you loved your wife and wanted to save you marriage - would you be willing to lose your sexual identity - and in many cases your "best friend" Sounds like co-worker didn't want others to know the complete truth.
Originally Posted By Mr X **I feel for them, too - but do not believe they were "born in the wrong body". There is something going on with their brain and/or mind.** The explain how it's the fault of a hermaphrodites "brain" that they were born with both. It's not nearly as cut and dried as you wish it were, RC Collins, and I think that you are looking at this through angry and prejudiced eyes for whatever reason, to put it mildly.
