Originally Posted By WorldDisney Mr. X, you honestly didnt know the differences between U.K. and G.B.? *I* know that. If someone with a Compton high school education know lol, you shouldve been taught that from birth with all your family history there .
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Heck WD, not even the people of Britain are really clear on it (proving ignorance is not just confined to the US)
Originally Posted By Mr X ***All he would do is fall on 'freedom', 'God', 'Sept. 11th', 'democracy' or a good mix of all four he always falls back on. That record skipped a long time ago.*** Well said. WITHOUT going backwards too much (we already have anyway lol), I saw a "word balloon" from the Obama SOTU address and I was very pleased to notice that a LOT of those sorts of words have FINALLY disappeared........ Bush 2002 <a href="http://www.imaginaryyear.com/projects/tagclouds/bush_state_of_the_union_2003.gif" target="_blank">http://www.imaginaryyear.com/p...2003.gif</a> Obama 2010 <a href="http://lh3.ggpht.com/_tKW0szxH_rk/S2D49fcpadI/AAAAAAAARGw/5MBNOcaqEV4/s400/Fullscreen%20capture%201272010%2094034%20PM.bmp.jpg" target="_blank">http://lh3.ggpht.com/_tKW0szxH....bmp.jpg</a>
Originally Posted By Mr X ***Mr. X, you honestly didnt know the differences between U.K. and G.B.? *I* know that. If someone with a Compton high school education know lol, you shouldve been taught that from birth with all your family history there .*** In fairness, we ALL have our particular areas of ignorance (and it's not always because someone is "stupid" or whatever although I'll freely admit stupidity on the England/U.K./Great Britain thing). In fact, just yesterday I had to school someone on another site who was complaining that the Supreme Court would probably "overturn" an Amendment to the Constitution if the Congress made one. I sort of had to go back to grade school and explain exactly what an amendment was...and I was shocked the guy (otherwise seemingly very smart) was so ignorant of that simple civic fact that ANY American should be WELL aware of (except Sarah Palin of course, she has no clue but she gets a pass).
Originally Posted By Mr X ***In fact, just yesterday I had to school someone*** Here's what the guy wrote, with my reply... Random Internet Dweeb: "So had the proposed Flag Desecration Amendment been adopted in 1990. . .it could not have been overturned by the Court as a violation of the First Amendment?" My Reply: "The Supreme Court has no authority to overturn an Amendment. Methinks you're not quite clear on what an Amendment is. It becomes part of the fabric of the Constitution itself, as valid as the First Amendment or any other. The Supreme Court would have no more authority to overturn it than they could the First Amendment. Only a new Amendment could do that (see Prohibition). Even that wouldn't be "overturning", it would be a repeal. And that would have to be done by the Congress or (I believe) by the States. The SCOTUS would have nothing to do with it, and they would be bound by it unless/until repealed." I went on to illustrate the whole 18th/21st amendment debacle. But interestingly the guy never replied back. No "thank you". Or "oh, I get it now". Nothing. I did get a few "affirmative" posts on that one though. Amazing how little people know about their own government! (and how much they THINK they know!)
Originally Posted By WorldDisney I was just giving X a hard time Dave . And wow, I liked that word balloon thing. I never seen it before. To give Bush a little more credit though, his SOTU was made when terrorism and Sept. 11th was felt at a all time high. I just hate it when EVERY damn interview, this is what he falls on everytime hes backed into a corner. Like Dave said, I'm glad the whole '911' and 'God' is fading with every presidential speech. And before someone get on my case, I'm not saying those shouldnt be discussed or anything, all I'm saying is it shouldnt be a default for a President to use to justify every action he makes, thats all. It just starts to feel like lazy talking points no matter how sincere its actually felt. Again, Obama is faaaaar from perfect, I'm not claiming he is of course, the man has had a tough month lol, but after 8 years of listening to that man flub and beat around every question vs a man who is at least willing to look you in the eye and give you straight facts, this is refreshing to me. I'm actually (getting it back to the topic lol) happy the Republicans grilled him the way they did ESPECIALLY on the lobbyist issue, because it was the first time I heard a direct answer on it. Also I like the fact we have a President who can simply say, "Yeah, I screwd up!" He said it several times his side couldve done things better while acknowledging the Republicans havent made it easy for him one way or the other. How many times in that video with Bush did he ONCE acknowledge that he made mistakes?? He was so busy trying to be right, he couldnt just be truthful when he knew he wasnt. How could anyone with a high school education say invading Iraq made the world a safer place or that the world was behind him when these things were clearly false?? Later of course, he finally could admit mistakes, but that took TWO terms and YEARS for him to say, "Yeah, we shouldve done some things a little differently." Its unreal!
Originally Posted By WorldDisney LOL X, I was just giving you a hard time . I doubt most people I know personally knows it all that well . Hell, I lived in Japan and I still cant always remember the names of all four islands sometimes lol. It comes and goes oddly.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***To give Bush a little more credit though, his SOTU was made when terrorism and Sept. 11th was felt at a all time high.*** Don't be so sure. Here's the Bush word cloud from SOTU 2006... <a href="http://boingboing.net/images/screentagscloudsotu07.gif" target="_blank">http://boingboing.net/images/s...tu07.gif</a>
Originally Posted By WorldDisney Okay, but I was only stating the FIRST SOTU since that one came litterally just months after Sept. 11th. I understand the need for that kind of rhetoric, especially at the time of course. But yeah, of course, he KEPT using it which is what I said later that bugged me. Okay, the first 1-2 years fine. You need to fall back on it to get reelected, underhanded but understandable, it IS an election year lol. But yeah, by the time 2005, '06, etc rolled around and his ratings dropped like a stone for a reason because he was still saying the EXACT same thing as he was in 2002 and no one was buying it anymore. It was clear he got us into a HUGE mess and the 'freedom', 'God', etc mumbo jumbo wasnt enough for even the biggest Republican supporter in middle America to buy anymore. So glad he's gone!
Originally Posted By DAR <<But then again FOX news was the ONLY major network that didnt bother running the Haiti telecast last week with all the other networks. And its their perogative, but it just shows where their priorities are, since the network seems to think helping Haiti is a waste of time.>> Not completely true, yes the may not have shown the telecast, though I was out of the country so I didn't see any of it. <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,582902,00.html" target="_blank">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0...,00.html</a>
