Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<But this park is generally one that can be skipped if you've spent time there in the last five years ...>> Which can said about basically any of the WDW parks. But I'm gonna spend more time in DHS than I will in MK or DAK. Tower, Star Tours, Muppets, and the Citizens of Hollywood(who I can watch all day) alone make it a better park than MK and DAK.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Space Mountain's "music" is a non-factor. You can barely hear it until you're at the bottom of the ride. Yet another solid "meh" for the Space Mountain refurb.<<< Hokie, the whole ride is a non-factor. Even without the refurb... What's all the hype over? It a coaster in the dark, with minimal themeing and effects. The only thing that wreck has going for it at the moment is nostalgia, and it's never had that for me. Call me when they give it a proper treatment. It has so much potential.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<DHS can't be skipped if you're a fan of Tower. That ride alone is worth making the trek.>> Perhaps when it was new I'd agree. But I've been riding it since '94. Definitely a great attraction. But I've now ridden countless times and don't have to on every visit, especially since there's so little else I enjoy. Besides, you can (and I have) enjoy ToT in Anaheim, Paris Tokyo as well. And, sadly, my friend who was at O-Town's Tower Monday said the queue area was really in bad shape.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<And I have said it before I think F is better at WDW because the dragon is not the new dragon like the inflatable balloon dragon at DL...>> Have you seen Fantasmic in FLA recently? The show condition is laughable. So many things don't work or work partially. I've always preferred DL's, but now there's not even a question. WDW's version is sad ... it almost looks like they'd like to kill it off (and no, fanbois, it isn't to add WoC instead!)
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Have you seen Fantasmic in FLA recently?<<< How can he, when it's only playing two nights a week?
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<The Back to the Future theme could have easily stayed with an updated film. It's still easily one of the favorite movie series for 20 somethings.>> I tend to agree, although animation based properties tend to 'age' better. But I'll also say that many people feel that if something isn't a favorite of theirs (or their circle of influence) than they extrapolate that to the masses. It's why some folks will diss the Harry Potter series (or Star Wars for that matter)as something that will just be popular for a short time ... and while others will try and convince you that Tron and/or Tangled are more popular than they are.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Hokie, the whole ride is a non-factor. Even without the refurb... What's all the hype over? It a coaster in the dark, with minimal themeing and effects. The only thing that wreck has going for it at the moment is nostalgia, and it's never had that for me. >> It's got elements that could be good. The coaster design is still top notch, it just needs to be completely rebuilt and smoothed out.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> Space Mountain's "music" is a non-factor. You can barely hear it until you're at the bottom of the ride. Yet another solid "meh" for the Space Mountain refurb. << Truer words have never been spoken.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<It's why some folks will diss the Harry Potter series (or Star Wars for that matter)as something that will just be popular for a short time ... and while others will try and convince you that Tron and/or Tangled are more popular than they are.>> I just find those notions funny. Especially when you see Disney parks filled with Gryffindor and Slytherin scarfs everywhere you look.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>It's got elements that could be good. The coaster design is still top notch, it just needs to be completely rebuilt and smoothed out.<<< That's like saying "You look great, you just need a facelift". The whole thing needs a overhaul. Sure, some thematic elements can be redone (like the queue's windows) but as a whole, Space Mountain needs to be brought into the 21st century for it to be taken seriously. It's a painful joke as it is, right now.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<But this park is generally one that can be skipped if you've spent time there in the last five years ...>> <<Which can said about basically any of the WDW parks.>> Yes, Skip, sadly that is really true if you are looking for anything new and fresh largely. <<But I'm gonna spend more time in DHS than I will in MK or DAK. Tower, Star Tours, Muppets, and the Citizens of Hollywood(who I can watch all day) alone make it a better park than MK and DAK.>> That's just personal tastes, though. I could go years without going to the Studios or MK and be fine ... but I'll always enjoy EPCOT or DAK ... even if all I am doing is walking around as they're such beautiful environments. I've long since past my 'gotta do the rides' mentality at WDW (only Disney resort I can say that about really), so atmosphere, food/beverage, entertainment are more important. TPFKaTD-MGMS and MK come up way behind EPCOT and DAK in this department.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Hokie, the whole ride is a non-factor. Even without the refurb... What's all the hype over? It a coaster in the dark, with minimal themeing and effects. The only thing that wreck has going for it at the moment is nostalgia, and it's never had that for me. >> <<It's got elements that could be good. The coaster design is still top notch, it just needs to be completely rebuilt and smoothed out.>> I don't know. I think it's just a tired relic. ... And so much could have been done with it to make it THE reason many people head to MK for years to come. But why cry over things that didn't and won't happen?
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 >> Space Mountain's "music" is a non-factor. You can barely hear it until you're at the bottom of the ride. Yet another solid "meh" for the Space Mountain refurb. << <<Truer words have never been spoken.>> Perhaps, leo, but I love the new Staryophonic Sound they added to the AFNaTTTA!
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<I've long since past my 'gotta do the rides' mentality at WDW (only Disney resort I can say that about really), so atmosphere, food/beverage, entertainment are more important. TPFKaTD-MGMS and MK come up way behind EPCOT and DAK in this department.>> Yea, EPCOT is always going to be one of my choices, but outside of atmosphere, I don't think DAK beats DHS in anything, personally. So much so I didn't eve step foot in DAK while I was there the past 6 days.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<It's why some folks will diss the Harry Potter series (or Star Wars for that matter)as something that will just be popular for a short time ... and while others will try and convince you that Tron and/or Tangled are more popular than they are.>> <<I just find those notions funny. Especially when you see Disney parks filled with Gryffindor and Slytherin scarfs everywhere you look.>> I just had that conversation with a friend ... of course, WDW fanbois will point to all the retro tees that are 'flying' off the shelves as some backing of their opinions that Disney is doing just as well with merchandise. Of course, they miss the point that much of the retro stuff has been marked at lower price points and is being bought by tourists strictly based on cost and not because some 'rube' (first use in 2011) from Ohio who wasn't alive in 1980 somehow has a connection with WDW's original logo. People are buying the Potter stuff because they love Potter and it's quality themed merchandise. They'll do the same for years to come if UNI keeps providing it. Not to take your point off on a tangent, but I did anyway! ;-)
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>I don't know. I think it's just a tired relic. ... And so much could have been done with it to make it THE reason many people head to MK for years to come. But why cry over things that didn't and won't happen?<< Relic implies that its revered for some reason... I can't find the reason.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> Relic implies that its revered for some reason... I can't find the reason. << Because it's a classic Disney ride, the first Space Mountain, a classic example of less-is-more... Not sure what your beef is with Space. Does it not have enough convoluted backstory for you?
Originally Posted By wahooskipper I still think Space Mountain is in a league of it's own. Short of going to space, everthing about that ride from the impressive structure looking at it outside the line that sends you deep into the attraction ready to "launch" into space is excellent. A 28 mph ride that feels like 100 mph because of the dark and the environment. Simply riding through it on the People Mover still gets me as excited as when I was a preteen and checking it out for the first time.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Because it's a classic Disney ride, the first Space Mountain, a classic example of less-is-more... Not sure what your beef is with Space. Does it not have enough convoluted backstory for you?<<< Reverence for History I can understand, greatly. I mean, I'm slightly despondent over the fact that SWSA might be going the way of the do-do, as it's a opening day attraction. My beef with it is all the adoration for it. In this state, what's so great about it? Why does it get all this attention? I was chided by several spirits and selves [ ;-) ] for not riding it in a few years... Why?! It was a anticlimactic waste of time... The same one I was on in 2005. Also, it's VERY painful. I might not be able to have children now. TMI? LOL. SM has a ton of potential, and a ton of history. But right now, its a highly unfortunate waste. Even if the dome is darker and the queue more sleek.
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb A quick point about movies and attractions. Water World was a total and complete flop, it stank up the room as it were. But it has been a highly successful as well as highly entertaining stunt show at USH. I always make a point to see it when I go, as opposed to LMA. Yes I recognize the driving skill, but that doesn't it something I needed to see more than once (although I have). As for Space Mountain, its a fun wild mouse. But for that ride experience I prefer Matterhorn and I don't have to wait in a 90 minute or longer line for that except on the busiest of days. You want a thrilling coaster ride in the dark, get thee to the opposite coast and ride Space Mountain done right. This is coming from a DLR regular who would rather go to WDW.
