Originally Posted By mele (And I didn't make my last post to garner any sympathy, I just brought it up for people to consider the lives unwanted children might lead. We might not know what will happen but it might be wise to consider the feelings of the mother...she would know more than anyone else.)
Originally Posted By Beaumandy <<Should a woman who has an aborotion be put on trial for murder and executed if convicted?>> Nope. But any woman who has a LATE term abortion should possibly be charged with a crime.
Originally Posted By mele Does anyone know the actual amount of late term abortions that are performed every year (minus the ones that are performed when the mother's life is at risk)?
Originally Posted By Beaumandy <<This is what you ignore. You CANNOT be pro-life and pro-death penalty. It's impossible.>> BS cmpaley. The VAST majority of Christians are against abortion and for the death penalty. People agasint the death penalty have blood on their hands because these people who should have been executed have killed others in prison and have orchastrated killings on the outside of prison. This is innocent life lost due to letting this person live. What do you say about that? <<Some of us worry about killing innocent people, regardless of how "statistically insignificant" that person is. >> Hey Shooba, everyone worries about killing innocent people. But funny a liberal like yourself isn't concerned about killing an innocent baby who is a month or two from delivered?? See the irony once again when you look at a liberals point of view? I guess we should shut all roller coasters down because we are worried someone might die. This makes about as much sense as stopping the death penalty due to some poooor innocent guy who guts the needle.
Originally Posted By mele <<People agasint the death penalty have blood on their hands because these people who should have been executed have killed others in prison and have orchastrated killings on the outside of prison.>> LOL! Yes, that happens ALL the time, don't you know? And it IS the fault of people against the death penalty, we should kill 'em all cos a life in prison is just party, party, party.
Originally Posted By Shooba >>Hey Shooba, everyone worries about killing innocent people. But funny a liberal like yourself isn't concerned about killing an innocent baby who is a month or two from delivered??<< I already said that I don't like Abortion, but I don't like the alternative either. So to say I'm not "concerned" is a flat-out-lie, but what else is new. I'd love to see a world where birth control & self-responsibility negate the need for abortions, but I doubt it will ever happen.
Originally Posted By FaMulan Especially with the current administrations 'Abstinence Only' sex education mandate.
Originally Posted By cmpaley >>It's practically impossible to be executed for a crime you didn't commit in todays world. << Tell it to Ruben Cantu's family.
Originally Posted By cmpaley >><<Of course, not everyone that is executed was actually guilty. It might be a very rare occurance, but innocent people have been executed for crimes they did not committ.>> Not enough of a problem to worry about though.<< Human life: cheap to extreme Right Wing "Christians" like Beau.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy <<Tell it to Ruben Cantu's family.>> OK, give me a few more " innocent " people that have been executed by our government. If it's such a problem I'm sure you can give me 6 ot 7 innocent people from the last 100 years or so. Not to long ago some dude who people claimed was an innocent executed man was found guilty by modern DNA evidence. Whoops...
Originally Posted By cmpaley >>BS cmpaley. The VAST majority of Christians are against abortion and for the death penalty.<< Sorry. Truth is not subject to a vote. >>People agasint the death penalty have blood on their hands because these people who should have been executed have killed others in prison and have orchastrated killings on the outside of prison. This is innocent life lost due to letting this person live. What do you say about that?<< The standard has been set. The death penalty is moral if and only if: 1. the guilty party's identity and responsibility have been *fully determined* AND 2. this is the only possible way of effectively defending human lives against the unjust aggressor. That's it. That's the standard. Your standard is much, much lower because life is cheap to you. Admit it.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy <<Human life: cheap to extreme Right Wing "Christians" like Beau.>> Christians know evil needs to be destroyed not comforted. The left just can't quite seem to grap this. It's why the very eveil people they try to protect come back to kill innocent people througout history.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy cmpaley, were we wrong to kill SAddams kids? Are you going to cry wheh SAddam is executed in the upcoming future?
Originally Posted By Beaumandy <<That's it. That's the standard. Your standard is much, much lower because life is cheap to you. Admit it.>> A convicted murderes life is cheap and worthless to me. Guess that makes me a real jerk. Tell ya what, while you protect the Tookie Williams of the world, I will focus on protecting the baby who is 8 months along who is about to have it's brains ripped out. Deal?
Originally Posted By cmpaley >><<Human life: cheap to extreme Right Wing "Christians" like Beau.>> Christians know evil needs to be destroyed not comforted.<< Um. Not so. You know what St. Paul did before he was converted? How about St. Christopher? People who commit heinous crimes need to repent and believe in Christ so they can be saved. If you deny this, you CANNOT be a Christian. In God's sight, you and I are no better than a murderer. We're ALL sinners who deserve eternal hell.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>We're ALL sinners who deserve eternal hell.<< I've sat through the movie "Master of Disguise." Let me tell you, if eternal hell is worse than that (which I doubt), I don't want any part of it.
Originally Posted By cmpaley OH, it is, 2oony. There's a brief preview of it at Disneyland, you know. Imagine somewhere less humid about 100 times hotter and last infinitely longer.
Originally Posted By Shooba >>I've sat through the movie "Master of Disguise." Let me tell you, if eternal hell is worse than that (which I doubt), I don't want any part of it.<< I imitate Dana Carvey as the turtle guy everytime I see a turtle. I'm sure I deserve some sort of damnation for that.
