Originally Posted By alexbook In choosing the best "movie musicals," should a good movie with bad music rank higher than a bad movie with good music? To take two of the nominees: "Purple Rain" has great music, but as a movie it's not much, IMHO. On the other hand, "A Night at the Opera" is one of the great comedies of all time, but the music is pretty much generic.
Originally Posted By u k fan I know it will never make the final list, but I'm glad that the music of Hunchback got the recognition it deserves. It's some of Disney's best!!!
Originally Posted By seanyoda Spooky Ghost wrote: << To add, I cant see why all the sondheim stuff on his list. >> Huh? There's only three films on the list in which Sondheim had some credit: "Dick Tracy", "Gypsy", and "West Side Story". I'm a bit surprised that "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum" wasn't on the list. (If they wanted to be complete, they could add "A Little Night Music" too.)
Originally Posted By seanyoda This made me look closer at the list to see which films the nominating committee overlooked: "Anything Goes" "The Blues Brothers" "Bright Eyes" "A Chorus Line" "Cry Baby" "Doctor Dolittle" "Godspell" "James and the Giant Peach" "The Nightmare Before Christmas" "Sweet Charity" If they wanted to be bold, they would have included "8 Mile" and "Head". In my previous post, I mentioned "Forum" but I see it wasn't by a US production company, hence its exclusion, along with "Tommy", "A Woman Is a Woman", "A Hard Day's Night", "Help!", "Scrooge", "The Umbrellas of Cherbourg", and "Yellow Submarine"
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I can't get the list to load, but from what I've gathered, it sounds like Newsies wasn't on the list. Although it isn't the best musical ever made, it is certainly better than several on the list. And I know I'm strange, but I just can't stand Singin' in the Rain. It just doesn't do anything for me. Sure the songs are catchy, but it just doesn't have the great cinematic quality that a film that famous should have, IMO.
Originally Posted By seanyoda Try this link... <a href="http://www.afi.com/docs/tvevents/pdf/musicals_ballot.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.afi.com/docs/tveven ts/pdf/musicals_ballot.pdf</a>
Originally Posted By FerretAfros That works. Now, I'm trying to figure out what "The Gay Divorce" was about... : ) I'm also a little confused about the song selections listed. There are only three for each film, so does that just mean that they are examples of the songs in the film, or they are the only songs that are being used for judging? (if it is the only ones used for judging, we're in trouble, because Beauty and the Beast doesn't list "Belle," which is one of the best written musical songs ever written, and Peter Pan has a song called "Peter Pan," which I can't remember for the life of me) I'm still confused why so many fairly famous musicals were left off the list, yet we have classics like "South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut" on there, like it has any redeeming value at all.
Originally Posted By Dlmusic Looking over the nominees list, I'm hard pressed to think of any musicals I particularly love that aren't on there. I was pleasantly suprised to see even some guilty pleasures like Beach Blanket Bingo on there.
Originally Posted By ToonKirby >so does that just mean that they are examples of the songs in the film< Yes, just a sampling. >what "The Gay Divorce" was about... : )< It's actually "The Gay Divorcee", early Fred and Ginger tuner, one of their better ones. Mostly remembered for including the first Best Song Oscar winner, "The Continental".
Originally Posted By TheRedhead "And I know I'm strange, but I just can't stand Singin' in the Rain." Welcome to the club. I am a big musical theatre nut, and I have spent my entire life being asked, "How can you not like Singin' in the Rain?!?!?" I don't like it. It annoys me. Leave me alone. Thank you. And if Evita and Dick Tracy can be on the list, then South Park certainly can. It's brilliant satire with a genuinely fun, catchy score. And if you're putting a balanced not-another-list together, it makes sense.
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 <<And if Evita and Dick Tracy can be on the list, then South Park certainly can.>> Good. That means there's hope for the inclusion of "Can't Stop The Music."
Originally Posted By seanyoda LOL I-57. Actually, because it wasn't produced by a US company, it doesn't qualify.
Originally Posted By ToonKirby Hot off the presses: 1. SINGIN' IN THE RAIN 1952 2. WEST SIDE STORY 1961 3. THE WIZARD OF OZ 1939 4. THE SOUND OF MUSIC 1965 5. CABARET 1972 6. MARY POPPINS 1964 7. A STAR IS BORN 1954 8. MY FAIR LADY 1964 9. AN AMERICAN IN PARIS 1951 10. MEET ME IN ST. LOUIS 1944 11. THE KING AND I 1956 12. CHICAGO 2002 13. 42ND STREET 1933 14. ALL THAT JAZZ 1979 15. TOP HAT 1935 16. FUNNY GIRL 1968 17. THE BAND WAGON 1953 18. YANKEE DOODLE DANDY 1942 19. ON THE TOWN 1949 20. GREASE 1978 21. SEVEN BRIDES FOR SEVEN BROTHERS 1954 22. BEAUTY AND THE BEAST 1991 23. GUYS AND DOLLS 1955 24. SHOW BOAT 1936 25. MOULIN ROUGE! 2001 I'm very happy to see "Mary Poppins" so high on the list, especially ranking higher then "My Fair Lady", who bested it so many years ago at the Oscars. I've seen all 25 of these movies and the only one I have a problem with is "On the Town", which just doesn't hold up to the others in my eyes. Otherwise, a great list. Btw, I just watched "Stormy Weather" starring Lena Horne the other day ... what a great movie musical. If you love movie musicals and have not seen it, you owe it to yourself to seek it out. It was recently released on DVD.
