Originally Posted By SpokkerJones Also, there are probably cases in which someone got sick from something they ate at Disneyland, showed symptoms days after they came home, and blamed it on something else. In my view the occasional illness due to food isn't all that bad for a healthy adult. If a little bit is going to kill you then you're probably too delicate to be walking around anyway! As long as you're not downing whole raw chickens you're fine. It's young kids (babies especially) and seniors you gotta be vigilant about.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***Is it really so hard to believe that a piece of poultry at Disneyland might have some bacteria?*** Of course not. I'm just of a similar standpoint as SuperDry, that it's difficult to determine and often people tend to say we got food poisoning from XYZ when they really don't have a good basis for believing so except that it was the last thing they all ate. However, obviously you determined a probable source very scientifically. And thanks to your graphic description, I'm starting to feel a little sickness of my own creeping in. *urp*
Originally Posted By sunNrainfall When a foodborne illness report is taken, the report goes back up to 72 hours, of everything that you have eaten until you started to get sick. It can be hard to pinpoint what has caused the illness/infection. Also, it's possible that it's spread through human contact as well via food.As others have said people write off foodborne illnesses as a stomach virus or the flu, foodborne illnesses are underreported for this reason. Also, the health department won't close down a restaurant for food out of temperature, the food would just be discarded. If the restaurant closed down it was by choice, not because of out of temp food. There are really 3 major reasons one would be shut down and that is not one of them.
Originally Posted By GalDisney You CAN become ill from food poisoning a short time after eating the offending food as it has happened to me twice(not at DL). It doesnt take hours or days to become ill.
Originally Posted By sunNrainfall Raw sewage, live vermin (mainly mice/rats and cockroaches), no hot water. (no public health permit would result in closure, too). I worked for the LA County Health department doing food facility inspections for many years. galdisney> i never said you couldn't, i said it's very rare, and unless you were diagnosed by a doctor you can't be sure, it doesn't happen often, infections that happen in hours usually is from fish or hep A (food handler not washing their hands ie-taco bell-boil in a bag). other than those, you won't see it all that often.
Originally Posted By frailejon Foodborne illnesses can take anywhere from a few hours to several weeks to show symptoms, and frankly I'm sometimes amazed when the health department can trace the source back to a specific restaurant or food. Does food poisoning happen on Disney properties? Sure. And it can be either something they didn't do correctly (cook chicken to the proper temp, for example) or something they had no control over (contaminated fruits or vegetables).
Originally Posted By Rsey103 I believe your story, allygator. When the restaurant industry says it could have been this, that, or the other they are protecting themselves. One year some friends and me spent a week at WDW. Our visit began on a Sunday with dinner at Artists' Point at the Wilderness Lodge hotel. Nice restaurant. During the meal I had an odd feeling that something just wasn't right about it. It wasn't anything specific to raise a complaint about, just a feeling..... At 2 o'clock Monday morning I began to get sick. I spent Monday - Thursday in the bed at the Polynesian while my friends were out enjoying the parks. A less than magical memory. I don't care what they say; I know that steak at Artists' Point made me sick. It happened again last month, although not at a Disney restaurant. I was at a local fine-dining establishment. Great place. I had that odd feeling again.....that something wasn't right about the grilled chicken on my salad. Four hours later I became very sick and had to drive 125 miles home feeling miserable. The next time I get an intuition that something is not right about the food in a restaurant I'm going to listen to it. I'm going to stop and order something else or go somwhere else....
Originally Posted By sunNrainfall Keep in mind, that with illnesses/reactions occurring within hours, can also (not always and not only) be an allergic reaction to something. There are so many variables involved with reactions/illnesses/infections. People with different immunities, different allergies, eating different foods, spices, sauces, at all times of the day. That can happen anywhere, home, restaurants, other peoples homes, stores, markets, amusement parks, etc. etc.etc. Unless there is medical testing, in addition to illness reports, all in a timely manner, it's very hard to find the culprit. You just have to be as careful as you can, the best way to recognize bad food, is your eyes and nose. Don't take a chance, there's always other options. This stuff is going to happen no matter what when humans are involved in food prep or even when they aren't, these bacterias are naturally occurring. That's what the acid in your stomach is for Be careful and be vigilant! Good luck
Originally Posted By tinkerbell1962 I had always wondered ... the last time my family ate at our favorite place, my daughter got VIOLENTLY ill by the time she finished her meal. She was feeling fine up until that moment and said half way through that the meal "tasted different" this time. She just barely made it to the restroom and it was an interesting drive home to say the least. I just figured it was that meal that was "bad" - since I had fixed all of her food the previous 3 or 4 days and we ate the same things and no one else at home got ill. She was really, really sick for a couple of days and we haven't been back there since. The thought of going back there turns her gills green to this day. Can bad food make you sick immediately?
Originally Posted By sunNrainfall Immediate sickness is not common. It takes at least a little time in your system to make you feel symptoms. It's possible it was some kind of allergic reaction - and they can last for days. There are so many variables it's hard to say from your case. It would take a doctor, which I am not, and detailed report of food she injested to properly diagnose your daughter. I have a friend who for more than 10 years, won't eat turkeyburgers because ONE time she threw up while eating one and the last thing you ate is not usually the thing that makes you sick.
Originally Posted By JeffG Of course, early symptoms of a bacterial infection or stomach virus (or even gestating food poisoning from an earlier meal) can also include food not tasting right or starting to get an uncomfortable/sick feeling while eating. In each of the cases mentioned in the last couple messages, I kind of suspect that eating a big meal probably tipped the scales on something that was already in progress. -Jeff
Originally Posted By ecdc This has been a fascinating topic. I'll plead guilty now to believing myths about food poisoning that some have debunked here. However, according to the Wikipedia article on food borne illnesses, there are two types of food poisoning. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foodborne_illness" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F..._illness</a> The first is caused by a bacteria or virus and can take several hours or days before symptoms appear. The second is caused by toxins, and symptoms can appear within 1-6 hours of consumption. The second cause, although less common, certainly sounds like my own experience with food poisoning where I was certain a restaurant caused the issue. My family and I went out for my brother's birthday to Famous Dave's barbecue. My three brothers, my grandmother, my mother, and my wife and children were all there. Between us, we're talking about 5 different households - one of my brothers lived with my mom, my grandmother lived alone, my two other brothers lived in different apartments with roommates, and then my wife and children and I. This was the first meal any of us shared for several weeks. We ate and outside in the parking lot of the restaurant, my 4 year old son threw up. This was within 45 minutes of eating. By the time we got home, I was starting to feel ill, and this developed into one of the most miserable nights of my life. I later learned that my three brothers, in three different households, were all violently ill, vomiting every few minutes. My youngest son, mother, wife, and grandma were fine. We realized the one thing that me, my oldest son, and my three brothers had in common is that we'd eaten the pork. Again, this is the only meal any of us had eaten together for some time. That leaves three possibilities that I can think of that caused the illness: 1) The food we ate at the restaurant, probably the pork but perhaps something else unique to those of us who became ill; 2) We all coincidentally ate something separately over the last few days that made us extremely ill within minutes of one another; 3) We all contracted the flu and showed symptoms within an hour of each other. (Note that like mele's story, we got ill in order of size, me getting sick last, but still within an hour of everyone else.) I'm easily one of the most skeptical people on these boards I genuinely appreciate the information provided here that's helped clear up some of the myths that I believed without good reason. But I'm hard-pressed to come up with an alternative explanation that's as plausible as the explanation that Famous Dave's meat made my family sick, affecting four different households within an hour of each other, and within two hours of eating. Other members of these households that were sharing other meals and food did not become sick. So while the OP probably was jumping to a conclusion by blaming the salads at the French Market, it is a possible explanation.
Originally Posted By tinkerbell1962 I totally agree. Even if it wasn't the food that made my daughter sick, it's something that we will BOTH associate with this establishment and I venture to say we'll never go there again. With all the facts, I still think it was the food that made her sick. She was totally fine up until the meal and without getting into detail, her stomach wanted that food OUT right away!!
Originally Posted By Mr X ***Famous Dave's barbecue*** Well, if that moniker doesn't have "food poison served here" written all over it...
Originally Posted By dsnymomof2 I find it so funny how people get so bent out of shape over the funniest things such as food poisoning and who, what,where and why??? And to sit and write a 1/2 page about it! Life people, get one!
Originally Posted By Rsey103 I'm not buyin' the "uh...it's what you ate yesterday that caused it" explanation. Not saying it never happens, I just feel strongly it didn't happen that way to me. In my grilled chicken example, I'm a regular in that place and have had that dish served many times without incident, ruling out an allergy. Anyway...the main point I want to make is that we gotta go with our gut instinct on this. Even if it looks good. Even if it tastes good. If you get a funny feeling about it, take that as a warning...
Originally Posted By dlkozy >>>***I have been at the DLH when they had to shut down the conceirge lounge because they were getting complaints of a large number of the guests where showing signs of food poisoning.*** It's spelled "concierge"."<<< Ahhh, thanks X-that's what I get for typing so fast-but since spelling errors seem to be some kind of fettish for you-I will be sure to point out your errors for you as well. >>>"I would imagine a true case would amount to something similar in Anaheim. And we'd have heard about it."<<< Spend any time checking facts on food poisoning yet-your statement above shows that you are missing some facts in regards to food poisoning. And as I have already written-post #6 to be exact-" 76 million become ill from food"<<< so no- we would not "have heard about it"-when people DO get food poisoning from any Disney property.
