Al Lutz nails apologists ...

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    Originally Posted By vbdad55

    Raining on our parade bah humbugger dalmatians
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    Uh oh...Nikki's mad.
     
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    Originally Posted By vbdad55

    Nikki, ask him where the new head of his new religion (or anti religion or something) the Lucky Charms mascot lives - and is that a magical fairyland -

    and if you don't know what this is about - thank your lucky stars you don't venture into W/E -- this argument is the norm, not the exception.
     
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    Originally Posted By jonvn

    "jonvn, stop talking to us like we're three."

    Then don't act like you are. People go to these places and expect them to exceed their expectations. It's a vacation destination, not a fairyland.
     
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    Originally Posted By jonvn

    "ask him where the new head of his new religion (or anti religion or something) the Lucky Charms mascot lives"

    He lives under the enchanted mushroom at the end of the magic rainbow. There he makes he shoes and eats his breakfast cereal.
     
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    Originally Posted By jonvn

    I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade. It's not the way of the leprechaun.

    But people just have been so swallowed up by Disney marketing that they have just gotten a really warped view of things.

    faith and b'gorra.
     
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    Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

    <<Then don't act like you are. People go to these places and expect them to exceed their expectations.>>

    While I know what you're trying to say about WDW being part of the real world (and I agree) I think you're off on the expectations part.

    WDW was based on the whole concept of EXCEEDING guests expectations and, let's face it, most were high to begin with because Disney is a premium 'brand.'

    And, FWIW, exceeding those expectations didn't mean an absurd contest where most people get nothing (or free FastPasses or a bottle of Coke and have it labeled a 'dream')

    I think one of the biggest problems with WDW today is that it's goal is no longer to exceed guests expectations, but rather to try and meet guests already lowered expectations.

    That's where I got my catchphrase that so many here love about WalMarting the product ... while still charging Nordstrom or Saks prices.

    <<It's a vacation destination, not a fairyland.>>

    I think there are plenty of fairies at WDW.

    And people say I'm a curmudgeon. ;-)
     
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    Originally Posted By Skellington88

    >>Along with having to take your cousin to the prom<<

    What the hell? Are you so confused and upset with your life that you have to start insulting people? Nobody cares what you or Jonvn think. The masses can see that the last 10 years of Eisner's tenure was a declining disasterpiece and people like Al Lutz and others were right to critize it.

    I hope Disney does everything in their power to piss you people off. I'd love to tell you where to go in person.
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    It was a joke dude. You're young. I made a "young" joke.

    Don't take life so seriously, you'll go grey like me!
     
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    Originally Posted By jonvn

    They should simply provide good service for the money. People should expect to get a good level of service given the amount of money they pay.

    Or you could say excellent service, given what they charge. You should get value for the money you give them.

    And if you don't feel it's good value, you don't patronize further. Really, that's all there is to it. It's not something that needs to be over complicated. Value for the money.
     
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    Originally Posted By jonvn

    "Nobody cares what you or Jonvn think."

    I care. But you know, the same could be said about you.

    "The masses can see that"

    How do you know what the masses see or don't see? You have to realize. I've had this conversation before. It's scripted at this point, and in the end, you don't win.

    "people like Al Lutz and others were right to critize it. "

    People like Al Lutz generally don't know what they are talking about.

    "I hope Disney does everything in their power to piss you people off."

    I don't think I'm the one with the anger issue at the moment.

    Drop me a line when you're a CEO.
     
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    Originally Posted By danyoung

    >NikkiLOVESMickey: Get the mud out of your ears and listen and stop correcting us like children. You think you get annoyed easily? Honey, you're annoying the ever loving bejeezus out of me right now.<

    I just want to say that after that post DanLOVESNikki!
     
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    Originally Posted By vbdad55

    <I don't think I'm the one with the anger issue at the moment.

    Drop me a line when you're a CEO.
    <

    you won't listen to a CFO - is a CEO the only one ?
     
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    Originally Posted By vbdad55

    <>NikkiLOVESMickey: Get the mud out of your ears and listen and stop correcting us like children. You think you get annoyed easily? Honey, you're annoying the ever loving bejeezus out of me right now.<

    I just want to say that after that post DanLOVESNikki!
    <

    gotta admit -like the response, but jonvn will tell us all - there is no such thing as a bejeezus.....just another part of all of our fantasyworld --

    trust me the words are falling on deaf ears... but I enjoyed reading it anyway :)
     
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    Originally Posted By RoadTrip

    <<I read the book "Disney War" and was a member of SaveDisney I know whats goin on!>>

    Ummmm.... right.
     
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    Originally Posted By jonvn

    "you won't listen to a CFO - is a CEO the only one ?"

    He's a CFO? Pretty good.
     
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    Originally Posted By oc_dean

    OH MAN ... if only I had time to get through 210 posts ... I love the "DoMs" line! heh-hee ...

    Sums up how I feel about all the DCA debates I've been engaging with, ever since I began posting here on LP .. a whole year before that lousy park opened!
     
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    Originally Posted By oc_dean

    Just reading posts 20 through 35 and I'm a bit puzzled.

    hey .... nearly 8 years of posting here on LP ..... thousands of posts later ....

    the net DOES and HAS said IN BETWEEN THE LINES ... mediocrity is okay!

    Seems some deny it.
     
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    Originally Posted By oc_dean

    Just reading posts 20 through 35 and I'm a bit puzzled.

    hey .... nearly 8 years of posting here on LP ..... thousands of posts later ....

    the net DOES and HAS said IN BETWEEN THE LINES ... mediocrity is okay!

    Seems some deny it.
     
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    Originally Posted By oc_dean

    oh ....
    side note ....

    not that I'm specifically meaning anyone in posts 20-35 ...

    I'm speaking "collectively" ... over the hundreds of posters ... and thousands of posts over my 8 year stint with LP.
     
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