Originally Posted By vbdad55 <as far as lier with an e vs and a -- quite the juvenille shot - as with no edit feature sometimes when one is typing they mistype -- but I'll save that A for you ......< heck I was so ticked off it took me until now to realize I wasn't even the author of the 'lier' - although it was made to appear that way in the post...
Originally Posted By Bob Paris "<< responses are irrational >> I'm scratching my head and wondering how responses made by a grown man pretending to be three imaginary female witches can be rational?" I laughed so much, that actually made me spit out my muesli. This WoM person/split personality/three way personality thing has always reminded me of the special needs kid that is tolerated by everybody at family reunions but people are kinda relieved when he goes home.
Originally Posted By dshyates I believe the WoM to either be female whitches or male fairies as they have expressed a desire for a 3some with Tarzan of the Cruise Ship. And from that opinion alone I can tell you they are neither crazy or blind.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris "I like both Jon and Al. I've never actually meet either, but they are like ying/yang. No discussion about all things DL wouldn't be complete without Al saying 'They are gonna rip out the entrance because it sucks' and Jon saying 'Lier, they are ripping it out because they want to make the guys I have applauded for 6 years look bad. Its all Politics.'" Indeed. Reminds me of that Star Trek episode where the two guys are fighting each other, locked in combat, through all eternity in a parallel universe. Unfortunately, both Al and Jon are in OUR universe! ; )
Originally Posted By Mr X **all Christians are fairy tale believing goofs** I believe he said all religious believers, not specifically christians. What's your opinion on the 72 virgins thing anyway, VBDad? Being reincarnated as a tiger, sound plausible to you? Humans infected with the dead souls of aliens dropped into the volcanoes of Earth by evil interplanetary villain Zenu, does that strike you as at all odd? None of that seems fairy taleish to you? Apparently walking on water, virgin births, and rising from the dead are much more likely to be more than a fairy tale, huh? I'm sure you'll dismiss this post, but it'd be AWESOME of you (or anyone) went through it line by line and actually responded in a way that defended your line of thinking. Seriously, that'd be so great.
Originally Posted By jonvn "As for you jonboy... " Clever. You know, if you talk like that, people won't like you. I think this pretty much shows the level of behavior that I talk about with these folks. All they can do is splutter and be nasty. I don't know who this person even is. "No I am not that clueless since I am on to you here." There is really not that much to be onto. Or did you discover some great conspiracy? Ah, right. We're all paid by Disney, isn't that what you said? "and the only reason why you care to be posting here is because your butt was royally kicked out of Al's " Well, no. Actually. That's pretty stupid. The only time I posted there was once to answer a question about another website, and they wouldn't allow it. That was it. I've been posting here since 2000. I don't have a shred of desire to post there. I've had to deal with Al from before he had websites. But you know that since you're on to me. "Your little words of support of Al's over pedophilia mean nothing to me." Yes, I was supporting Al by saying he's not a pedophile. Just curious, what do you do for a living? You don't do anything having to do with building airplanes or anything, right? "But the day you begin to respect my position on this or even Al' Your position on what? Calling me names? You don't have a position. You have just a lot of personal attack. There is nothing to respect there, and I really couldn't care less about what you respect. You sit there and say nasty things about me, and start cursing on this board, and you expect respect for that. Well, no. You don't get that, you get quite the opposite. "we have jumped the shark here" No. Only you have. You're sitting there plainly in some sort of rage over people not being nice enough to a website blogger. Somehow this is supposed to be a rational comment on your part. You state how you are "on to me" with some utterly ludicrous comments and demand we all stop talking about Al. Yes, we all have freedom of speech, as long as we don't talk negatively about Al. Then you come down and curse at us with schoolyard taunts. I think that pretty much sums up your position. You're attempting to be an Al cop. Do you do this on other websites, too?
Originally Posted By jonvn "about what I expected except read again and you know exactly what I am talking about " This isn't the right forum fot that, but I believe if an organization engages in criminal behavior, then you do not support that organization, period. "all Christians are fairy tale believing goofs" It's not just Christians. I would not do that. It goes for all religions. "When it comes your way, or is on a topic you don't like it be on - then it wrong." The things you state are my beliefs, yes. When "it" goes my way? When WHAT goes my way? Saying no one likes me? That brilliant piece of logical deduction? " quite the juvenille shot " Since the guy who I was responding to recognized it for the joke that it was, I don't see why you are upset over it. If you don't want to hear me say something here that is going to upset you, don't bring up something like pedoophiles that bothers you for me to hear. Obviously it is a sore spot, so why even say it?
Originally Posted By jonvn "Whether one likes Al or not - what's the big deal " The big deal is this is a discussion board, and we'rd discussing it. I don't create topics about this stuff. I don't see why other people do, but I don't. So, if topics get created, then people will discuss it. What's the title of this thread "Al Lutz nails apologists." First, there is an insult implied right in the thread title. Second, Al should not be "nailing" people in the Disney fan community for liking things. And that is something that people will want to express. Because it is yet one more divisive and negative behaviors that someone has engaged in to the detriment of the online disney community.
Originally Posted By Mr X I wouldn't say nobody likes Jon. I like Jon. In fact, I like him a lot more than in past years...he has mellowed and adjusted to the vibe of this forum and he's even started to let some very funny self-deprecating humor shine through...though I think 94% of the readers are too dumb to catch it. Sure, he can be a pedantic jerk, but a lot of people on LP are just as bad or worse. I've even heard rumors that *I* piss people off from time to time. I know...can you believe it? Anyway, we've got our "good guys", the posters who can offer an opinion and never waiver BUT manage not to piss people off. WorldDisney and Kar2oonMan spring to mind. As for the rest of us...hey, not everyone can be your friend right? There are a lot of posters I really don't like, and vice-versa. Same for pretty much everyone. I think it's fair to say though, that people who spout off stuff like "hey Jon, everyone hates you", or "Jon, you should shut up because you are living in a glass house" and comments along those lines are NOT, as a general rule, folks that fall into the WorldDisney/Kar2oonMan category.
Originally Posted By jonvn "heck I was so ticked off" You have to not get ticked off. I'm nobody to you. You have to remember that. What difference does it make if I have ideas that are offensive to you? You have to have enough strength in your convictions to not let some random stranger totally shake you like that. I'm not the least bit angry or mad about it, and I didn't say anything in anger to you about it. It's just how I feel, and it's stated by me matter of factly. I honestly don't mean to offend you, but I see no reason to say something other than what I think, particularly about child molesters. I have no tolerance for any such behavior at all, and find it horrible than anyone else could even contemplate associating with an organization to fosters it through its behavior, if not its words.
Originally Posted By jonvn "I like Jon." I guess that makes you a Nobody. Hey isn't there a poster named Nobody? Does he like me? Can I be the Sally Fields of LP?
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>Can I be the Sally Fields of LP?<<< If you mean hot for your age? Sure, go for it! For the record, I enjoy Jon's posts, even though some annoy me (rockers should enjoy DL too ;-)
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 Hey, Bob Paris, be careful what you say about the Witches! You might find yourself under a powerful spell. Either that, or under a few hundred pounds of jiggly flesh. Seriously, though, I don't think the comparison of a special needs kid at a family reunion to the Witches' presence on LP is a good analogy. I don't think the Witches are "tolerated" on LP; I think they're cherished. Sure, they're a bit odd, they confuse new posters, they stalk attractive men, and they have questionable dietary habits. But after reading a few of their posts, most LP'ers come to see how sincere and sweet the Witches is/are, and the unconventional nature of their posts becomes a non-issue. I personally think that Al Lutz has cast a spell on the Witches that makes them unable to see that criticizing ASPECTS of Al's behavior isn't the same as saying, "He's Satan incarnate." On the other hand, there seems to be a lot of that spell in force around here. If you state disagreement with some behaviors of a person, you're suddenly accused of calling that person a "monster." Oh, well. Some people are better than others at seeing shades of gray, I guess. Anyhow, while I think the Witches are a bit overly defensive as regards Al and other friends -- and that was the whole point I was trying to creatively present earlier -- I'm finding my own self a little defensive of the Morvans at your analogy. Gosh. You seem like a nice enough guy. I really hope they don't change you into a Small World boat or something.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<What's your opinion on the 72 virgins thing anyway, VBDad?>> If they're over the age of 18 and still virgins they're probably not very good looking. <<Being reincarnated as a tiger, sound plausible to you?>> For Roy's sake, I certainly hope so. He deserves a chance to go after Montecore on equal terms. <<Humans infected with the dead souls of aliens dropped into the volcanoes of Earth by evil interplanetary villain Zenu, does that strike you as at all odd?>> Certainly would explain the Vesuvius and Pompeii thing.
Originally Posted By danyoung >I don't think the Witches are "tolerated" on LP; I think they're cherished.< Speak for yourself, I-57. With all due respect to a strange person with an obvious love of the Disney parks, I've always found the Witches thing to be more than odd, leaning towards the annoying. I try not to go around hurting peoples' feelings, but since the subject is open I thought I'd say what I think.
