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    Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

    Hey, guys, I just heard Al has a new column up on his site (off to read it now).
     
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    Originally Posted By Witches of Morva

    ORDDU: So are we, Spirit, duckling! And--for those who might have been led astray by false accusations against a certain coven of witches, Al is NOT our leader and never has been. He's merely a casual friend whose reports we happen to enjoy reading. It's really that simple. No conspiracies against those who disagree with him. We just happen to know there have been a lot of attacks against him. He has a thick skin, though, and doesn't let it bother him. And, now, without further ado...
     
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    Originally Posted By dshyates

    Hey, Witches. I didn't recieve Al's email of Daily Talking Points. Could you please forward it to me.
     
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    Originally Posted By magnet

    No, it's like on Bill O'Reilly's show:

    You need to get "The Memo"
     
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    Originally Posted By magnet

    You are now entering a no spin zone...

    ...because Al is looking out for you!

    (*vomit*)
     
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    Originally Posted By jonvn

    "Al is NOT our leader and never has been"

    Right. That's why I once got into a huge argument with your crowd about calling him "the leader."

    But, don't let the truth get in your way, you haven't yet.
     
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    Originally Posted By ADMIN

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    Originally Posted By jonvn

    "this is a classic example of a negatively obsessed person who doesn't know when it's best to leave something alone."

    Yes. The topic was dead until you started it up again. Thanks.

    Keep talking about my "lifestyle." It is precisely the sort of thing that you cult members and your leader like to engage in.

    "One thing ya won't find Al doin' is runnin' off with some other fella's wife"

    Like this, for instance. So, Dan Young, I want you to defend this person basically stating that I was going out with some other person's wife?

    That is somehow ok, is it, Dan? Hmm?

    That this individual feels it appropriate to make comments like this, true or not (and it is NOT true), just to damage me in a very personal way.

    Thanks for that little comment, witch person. You have done far more with that one statement than I could ever possibly do myself.
     
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    Originally Posted By danyoung

    jon, I don't know what the wife running of with event is, although I'm guessing that it has something to do with Jim Hill and the "Fabulous" Disney "Babe" thing - I stay away from all that crap. And I find the witches to be very tiresome, although I appear to be in the minority. If he was trying to compare you with a wife stealer, that was out of line. I don't have any trouble with people discussing ideas, but getting personal is completely uncool.

    But on further re-reading, I don't think the Witches was tryin to say that you're a wife stealer. He was just comparing Al with Jim Hill. Had nothing to do with you. I think you've taken quite a few things said in this thread very personally, when they weren't intended that way (although I'm sure some of them were!).
     
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    Originally Posted By jonvn

    " don't know what the wife running of with event is"

    Neither do I, frankly.

    "I'm guessing that it has something to do with Jim Hill and the "Fabulous" Disney "Babe" thing "

    Except there was no thing at all. This is one of their talking points, though. They like to trade these stories, I assume. Probably because it makes them feel better about their behavior, if I am made out to be as evil a human being as possible.

    "He was just comparing Al with Jim Hill. Had nothing to do with you."

    I don't know how you can say that. The entire first paragraph is about how terrible a person I am, and discusses my "lifestyle," which this person who has never met me could know absolutely nothing about.

    The second says "that's why we like Al better." Al would not go off with someone else's wife. Jim Hill, Fab, and nothing else gets metioned at all.

    "I think you've taken quite a few things said in this thread very personally"

    Because they are very personal comments, this being the latest. What sort of way should one take such a comment?

    Stop making excuses for them.

    And you should know that this is the sorts of things they've been saying for a long time now. This is why I have ZERO tolerance for them at this point. They make these extremely personal comments.
     
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    Originally Posted By danyoung

    jon, on reading the message for a 3rd time, it does indeed look as if the dig was at your expense. Very uncool.

    And I'm not making excuses for anyone, especially not the witches guy.
     
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    Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder

    "...especially not the witches guy."

    Boy howdy.
     
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    Originally Posted By jonvn

    "Very uncool."

    Thank you. This is the sort of thing I've had to endure from this crowd for a very long time now. Maybe you can start to understand my attitude towards them a bit more.
     
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    Originally Posted By oc_dean

    >>And do you know why papers, and other media outlets listen to him? He has a remarkable record for having real inside info.<<

    And on that note .....
    <a href="http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=local&id=5762824" target="_blank">http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/st
    ory?section=local&id=5762824</a>

    click on the video to the right!

    Note - Not Jim Hill, not Mousy-Marcie .. but Lutz!

    Love him or hate him or just interested in what he has to say ....

    Media seem to gravitate toward him.

    And ABC-7 Los Angeles is no High School video program!
     
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    Originally Posted By Witches of Morva

    ORDDU: I assure you I'm ALL woman.

    ORWEN: Me too! But as for Orgoch, the jury is still out on her.

    ORGOCH: Let it stay that way! But one thing I knows is it's 'uncool' fer jonvn ta be actin' like he's some sort of victim whilst bein' the first ta go callin' others names an' then spreadin' lies he makes up as he goes along--claimin' Al's got some cult out there that ain't got nothin' better ta do than single him out fer some paranoid reason. Must have a guilty conscience if'n he thinks that--er maybe he just sees hisself as the center a the world an' flatters hisself so much as ta think there's really a group a folks out there that gives a bat's behind 'bout him 'nuff ta even waste their time plottin' agin' him.

    ORDDU: Unfortunately, the real victims of such attacks and lies are those unsuspecting enough to believe in them. We can only hope such innocents are in the minority and that they eventually see through the hypocrisy of it all.
     
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    Originally Posted By jonvn

    "I knows is it's 'uncool' fer jonvn ta be actin' like he's some sort of victim"

    "Unfortunately, the real victims of such attacks and lies are those unsuspecting enough to believe in them."

    Yes, you're all martyrs. In the meantime, you are spreading extremely personal information about me that is a lie. And I don't have to say a word to anyone to have people "believe in it." They can see your actions with their own eyes.

    You accused me of having an affair with a married woman.

    Your behavior is beneath contempt. As is the rest of your gang's have been for several years running.

    It's that simple.
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    >>click on the video to the right!<<

    Very interesting, especially since it's a Disney-owned station. Also interesting that on MiceAge, the story was that one of the sets was pretty much covered in the mysterious "white powder" after the guest chucked it there resulting in a big cleanup effort, while the news story says the substance was only dumped into the water.

    I wonder which is correct?
     
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    Originally Posted By jonvn

    How could a set "be covered" in ashes? Unless they took them and just spewed them all over something. How much ash could there even be? Could you imagine what sort of sifting mechanism that would be required to spread ash all over a set? You'd need a cannon to get it past a few feet.

    Why do people continue to listen to this stuff?
     
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    Originally Posted By Witches of Morva

    ORDDU: Somehow, I don't recall any member of this coven accusing you of having an affair with ANY married woman, jonvn, duckling. Are you saying that you did or that you see yourself as the 'fat toad' Orgoch saw in our crystal ball? If so, you're even more paranoid than we originally thought. But have fun with your interpretations, dear. They're most entertaining to say the least.
     
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    Originally Posted By jonvn

    "I don't recall any member of this coven accusing you"

    You honestly expect people to buy into this?

    You're not that dumb are you? Dan, who is not exactly taking my side on this realized what you were saying.

    You're simply engaging in the sort of behavior your group has honed for a good many years.

    Now go play the martyr somewhere else. You're endless whining at how ill treated you are by me is a rather useless gesture at this point, given your constant stream of personal attacks on not just what I say, but what I do in my personal life.

    And without a shred of remorse, only more of the same. I have to wonder if you have a shred of decency at all. I rather doubt it.

    Doesn't bother me, though. I'll just continue to state what is now becoming rather plainly obvious. Although I don't have to state it very strongly anymore, as you are saying it far louder than I ever could.

    Thanks for showing the world your true colors.
     
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