Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Sorry if I'm coming off as a crank, but this is just a very sad thing, and unfortunate. >> You have nothing to apologize for ... and you're no more a crank than normal! ;-) It's just YOU have a history with the guy, and I don't doubt what you are saying because others have backed up some of what you wrote in post no. 88. That changes everything. That, in my opinion, shouldn't take away from what you write, but others may feel differently. FWIW, I try and keep my personal issues with people off the boards. I have plenty of personal stuff I could write here about certain execs and Imagineers ... very damning, damaging, personal things. I don't. I may take a shot at them for things they're responsible for in the Disney Universe, but I make it a point to tread lightly when it comes to personal stuff. Just something else to think about. Or maybe I should start talking about the REAL Cynthia Harriss or the exec at WDW that has used the College Program as his own gay sex club?
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 "Al is tacitly implying the increased volume of these DoM posts" <<By the way, this is pretty stupid in any case. At the beginning of summer, you are going to get an increase in the number of younger people who post to the internet because school is out. A lot of them really like WDW. So if there is a lot more people posting like that, that's a good reason for it, too. But the thing is, I have not even seen this anyway. It all seems to be just about the same as it ever has been. >> Actually, Jon, on the Micechat WDW Board it has become almost all posters who just gush that WDW is perfect. I love the place, but it has never been perfect and is far from it in 2007.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I can say that the Spirit's self-deprecating style can easily be misinterpreted as pompousity. I can also say that he will debate a subject fiercely, which can be intimidating to some. We butted heads pretty strongly when I first discovered him a few years ago, but we have since developed into pretty danged good online friends. So I'd say to I-57 to relax a bit, take a deep breath, and try a little harder to see the Spirit as he really is, not as the monster you've built him up to be.>> Wow. Someone else has noticed that I-57 sees me as some giant montser that needs the flaming pitchforks to be driven away from the happy LP. And here I thought it might just be my over-inflated ego (actually, I never thought that). Anyway, thanks, Danny. I also consider you a friend and respect you even when you are wrong (which is surprisingly much less than one would think, being from Texas and all). I look foward to buying the first round at the Rose and Crown in the not-too-distant future.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy << it has never been perfect >> I would also say that, in totality, it has never been mediocre either.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I would also say that, in totality, it has never been mediocre either.>> If you are speaking about the whole WDW and not one park, I wholeheartedly agree.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>Actually, Jon, on the Micechat WDW Board it has become almost all posters who just gush that WDW is perfect.<<< Hence why I rarely frequent that WDW board anymore. DLP and Toyko, great! DL ok. WDW on that board makes me sick.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: It often seems that certain egos get in the way of what certain others are trying to say and a witch has to wonder if this is someone's deliberate attempt to throw cold water on the true 'spirit' of the conversation for some personal, self-serving agenda that really has no part in what the majority of you ducklings wants to talk about. ORWEN: All I know is I look forward to reading what you have to say, Spirit, duckling. More and more I'm learning which old toads to hop over so I can find out what insights you have to contribute to the cauldron. Promise me you won't ever go away 'cause I'd be awfully sad if you did that.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA <Or maybe I should start talking about the REAL Cynthia Harriss or the exec at WDW that has used the College Program as his own gay sex club?> Vote me in as a reader of both those threads.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<ORDDU: It often seems that certain egos get in the way of what certain others are trying to say and a witch has to wonder if this is someone's deliberate attempt to throw cold water on the true 'spirit' of the conversation for some personal, self-serving agenda that really has no part in what the majority of you ducklings wants to talk about.>> I've often wondered that myself. I am paranoid. I know that. But I also know people are out to get me too. But I am not ever changing my Spirited style.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <Or maybe I should start talking about the REAL Cynthia Harriss or the exec at WDW that has used the College Program as his own gay sex club?> <<Vote me in as a reader of both those threads.>> One day in person, perhaps. But we both know those threads wouldn't last a mili-second on this site ... and they'd likely get pulled on Al's pretty quickly too. Of course, it isn't slander when it is true.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Hmmmm - perhaps a Spirit blog could be in order then ;-P Personally, as long as it's legal, I really do not care what a professional gets up to in their private life. It's the outputs that matter.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Hmmmm - perhaps a Spirit blog could be in order then ;-P>> No way, Dave. I have no desire to deal with Disney Legal or any other attorneys! <<Personally, as long as it's legal, I really do not care what a professional gets up to in their private life. It's the outputs that matter.>> Well, much of the behavior I could cite would likely turn some stomachs here and while most is legal, if totally unethical, some of it has likely crossed lines. Why anyone assumes Disney execs are special or even decent human beings is beyond me ... people are people. Some good. Some not. Doesn't matter what they do for a living, what their title is or where they work.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy << Doesn't matter what they do for a living, what their title is or where they work. >> Exactly. So what is the point in only trashing the ones that work for Disney with your innuendo and speculation? Why not gossip about the guy who works at Gatorland down the road, too? This sick fascination with personally bashing every WDW exec by name is borderline psycho behavior. Therapy and medication would go a long way towards stemming the urge to fixate on individuals that have absolutely no reason to be stalked and maligned this way. These are not celebrity or public positions, but relatively anonymous bureaucratic positions that don't warrant the relentless personal intrusions that some web posters feel compelled to participate in ad nauseum.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Agreed, which is why I am not too bothered about what they get up to in their private life as long as it's legal.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Exactly. So what is the point in only trashing the ones that work for Disney with your innuendo and speculation? Why not gossip about the guy who works at Gatorland down the road, too?>> Uhm ... because there isn't a Gatorland fan site. Maybe Doobekah can start one? <<This sick fascination with personally bashing every WDW exec by name is borderline psycho behavior. Therapy and medication would go a long way towards stemming the urge to fixate on individuals that have absolutely no reason to be stalked and maligned this way.>> Oh please ... step off your soapbox before you slip and fall. This is a Disney site and their execs are very fair game. They are highly paid and work for a major entertainment company running the most-visited theme parks in the world. They are certainly fair game and shouldn't be cloaked in anonymity when their decisions affect the enjoyment (and safety) of millions of people a year. I resent your comments because they are totally over the top. Neither I, nor anyone else here, 'stalks' WDW execs. I think you should choose your words more carefully.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy << Neither I, nor anyone else here, 'stalks' WDW execs. I think you should choose your words more carefully. >> I choose my words based on an understanding of both legal and psychological definitions of stalking. A quick study on the subject might reveal that the behavior exhibited on these sites with respect to the mining of personal information on people without their consent very much falls under a classic definition of stalking behavior. Get some help.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Sport Goofy - truth be told, anyone with a great interest in something will research it. Some call it due dilligence, others, stalking. Reality is Meg Crofton and many others have really dragged WDW down. And they should be held to account. If it were a bank screwing customers, or an oil company, people would herald those that go into more detail and extract the truth. Because people bear false witness to the magic and the mouse, they don't like to hear the dark tails - of which there are many - including the suicide of some WDW project workers in the 60's and 70's. Or the sexual and physical assaults that have and do take place at Disney parks. People (including myself) see Disney as an escape from the real world. The minute they see the harsh realities of life encroach on their fantasy, Disney fans can be down right nasty. Or certainly in denile.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy << People (including myself) see Disney as an escape from the real world. >> I've always seen Disney as part of the real world and not separate from it. I think the people who do not understand this are the ones that get mentally off balance and start exhibiting some of these bizarre obsessive behaviors.
Originally Posted By jonvn "Or maybe I should start talking about the REAL Cynthia Harriss " I want to know! Does it involve latex?
