Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<The reality is that SM is a timeless classic, as popular as it ever was, and doesn't need the bling bling Rockit Mountain stuff to keep people coming through the turnstiles. It's great to spread rumors about all the backstage doings that go into these sorts of things, but when it gets right down to it, SM doesn't need to have the overlays like IASW and HM to keep people interested.>> In your opinion, of course. Who's to say that IASW, HM, and now the upcoming PotC are NOT timeless classics that don't need overlays?
Originally Posted By SIR at X-S Tech That's interesting about the Asteroid being too brightly lit. I had assumed that it would be a blacklit object, like the asteroids in DLP's original Space Moutnain which work really well and if you are moving too fast are almost hard to see.
Originally Posted By SIR at X-S Tech Regarding the "flip a switch" possibility, while in reality that may be possible, there may be safety regs requiring them to check everything out before each changeover. If any of the Rockit effects have been sitting dormant for 12+ hours while the day show runs, they probablly have to all be checked out before guests are allowed to ride, even though they could in theory just turn on with that switch.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "That's interesting about the Asteroid being too brightly lit." Yes, it is. And I find it hard to believe that an object like that (which probably cost a fortune) wasn't tested before being installed to see how much light it gave off. Sorry, but this story sounds kind of fishy.
Originally Posted By monorailblue <<"Think again, my friend. For many years, the Circlevision Theater in Tomorrowland at Disneyland had a daily two-hour down time mid-day to switch films (from "Wonders of China" to "American Journeys")." But Circle Vision wasn't Space Mountain. I doubt if anyone cared much if the theater was closed for a couple of hours. Space Mountain is one of DLR's top attractions. Closing it in the early evening would be just crazy. >> If you read my whole post, you see that I do not disagree with you. It isn't very fair to quote a part and attack it when the rest isn't attack worthy. I wasn't saying that a 30 minute changeover is acceptable; indeed, it would be horrible. I was merely pointing to an example of an Attraction, designed by WDI, that did require a lengthy mid-day down time. Be nice, please.
Originally Posted By woody >>Yes, it is. And I find it hard to believe that an object like that (which probably cost a fortune) wasn't tested before being installed to see how much light it gave off. Sorry, but this story sounds kind of fishy.<< Do you know how engineering works? If they only order one thing, that is the only thing being tested. They wouldn't know it worked until they installed it. What's fishy is Disney haven't done much to try to make it work. Are they passing up an opportunity to advertise a new version of the ride? It is sooooo pathetic.
Originally Posted By SIR at X-S Tech ....Aaaaand supposedly the Asteroids were something that was also included in HKDL's Space Mountain- not certain if there are other effects that we share but haven't been revealed to us yet. Anyway you'd think that would have given them the oppurtunity to test lighting etc...
Originally Posted By trekkeruss I think people are stuck on the idea that with all the new effects, it isn't dark enough inside, ruining the illusion of going through space. I think the intention is exactly what ahecht wrote in #60. RockIt Mountain is envisioned to be a _completely_ different experience from Space Mountain. That's why the effect can't be randomized thoughout the day.
Originally Posted By leemac HKDL's Space is as dark as DL's. The same special black paint was used on both.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss It's like, how much more black could this be? and the answer is none. None more black.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "If you read my whole post, you see that I do not disagree with you. It isn't very fair to quote a part and attack it when the rest isn't attack worthy." I wasn't attacking your comment. Not sure what gave you that impression. I was only pointing out the obvious differences in the two attraction's popularity. One is a headliner and the other is not.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>It's like, how much more black could this be?<< Regular black only goes to 10. This black goes to 11. It's one higher.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "They wouldn't know it worked until they installed it." So you mean the couldn't have put it in an empty warehouse and turned off the lights before shipping it to Disneyland? Did you see the Everest show on the Discovery Channel? They built and programmed the yeti creature in Glendale, dismantled it and then shipped it to Florida. Again, there are elements of this story that just don't make any sense.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<Did you see the Everest show on the Discovery Channel? They built and programmed the yeti creature in Glendale, dismantled it and then shipped it to Florida.>> That was pretty dang cool. I rather doubt the bit about all the hydraulics amounting to the same thrust as a 747 though. Sounds like hyperbole to me. Maybe it's the same if the 747's engines are at idle, but at full thrust? I don't think so.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss Lee, I can't tell if you are serious or not, but Kar is following my lead with a play on words from the movie Spinal Tap: Nigel Tufnel: The numbers all go to eleven. Look, right across the board, eleven, eleven, eleven and... Marty DiBergi: Oh, I see. And most amps go up to ten? Nigel Tufnel: Exactly. Marty DiBergi: Does that mean it's louder? Is it any louder? Nigel Tufnel: Well, it's one louder, isn't it? It's not ten. You see, most blokes, you know, will be playing at ten. You're on ten here, all the way up, all the way up, all the way up, you're on ten on your guitar. Where can you go from there? Where? Marty DiBergi: I don't know. Nigel Tufnel: Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do? Marty DiBergi: Put it up to eleven. Nigel Tufnel: Eleven. Exactly. One louder. Marty DiBergi: Why don't you just make ten louder and make ten be the top number and make that a little louder? Nigel Tufnel: [pause] These go to eleven.
Originally Posted By leemac Good golly I'm not up on my pop culture references. I must admit that I never "got" the movie so hence that one flew straight over my head. Doh I feel dumb.....
