Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt So let me get this straight... TDA insiders are bad. WDI insiders are good.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan TDA insiders only go to 10. WDI insiders go to eleven. That's one higher.
Originally Posted By leemac <<TDA insiders are bad. WDI insiders are good. >> Almost like the good ole days, right? Nothing like a black or white issue in the Disneyland universe.
Originally Posted By gadzuux >> Perhaps there might a better explanation [for postponing TOT 2.0], but lack of budget does sound plausible to me. << Even that sounds fishy. What could this change actually cost? The mechanics of the ride itself don't change at all, only the software that sequences the operation of the elevators - and that software already exists too. There's no extra training of CMs involved because once the guests are strapped into their seats, the cycle is going to run with no differences to their responsibilities. I don't see any reason that cost would be a significant factor in upgrading TOT.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros There might be some new effects that cost more to maintain. Other than that, as possibly using more energy to run the ride (depending on how it gets changes) I don't see any way to make it more expensive.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan So why don't you make insiders WDI 10?<< That's one less. Eleven is one higher.
Originally Posted By spaceace I never thought I would see the day you could have Spinal Tap and Disneyland together. Then again Disneyland isn't known as a place for fun.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>TDA insiders are bad. WDI insiders are good.<< Neither. Just that since both are Disney employees chances are that any "insider" is really a PR rep who is paid to promote DLR. Just take whatever tyhey say with a grain of salt.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>>> Perhaps there might a better explanation [for postponing TOT 2.0], but lack of budget does sound plausible to me. << Even that sounds fishy. What could this change actually cost? The mechanics of the ride itself don't change at all, only the software that sequences the operation of the elevators - and that software already exists too. << That's what I originally thought. But then why did they open it as version "1.0" ? The only conclusion that I could come up with was to cut costs (which is the mantra of Corporate America these days). So perhaps there is more to it than simply a software upgrade. Of course I am speculating.
Originally Posted By Westsider leemac<< "I'm not surprised that he has said that. He has a tendency to be behind other web commentators (especially Al) these days." Wait, I thought Marcie was a girl. Now I'm confused. Who were you referring to leemac?
Originally Posted By Darkbeer ^ Marcie is just an "alias", the CM picked a female name to place a "false trail" as to HIS real identity. I am pretty sure leemac knows who the person is, and I also know the real identity.... Let's just say "PR"
Originally Posted By gadzuux Marcie's a shill!? And a dude!? And a CM!? Wow - now there's a twist I never woulda seen coming.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>I am pretty sure leemac knows who the person is, and I also know the real identity.... Let's just say "PR" << Not suprising at all.
Originally Posted By Westsider If Marcie's posts are TDA's attempts at getting their spin out there in an unofficial way, then I'm not impressed. In fact, I'm kind of embarassed for them. Her info about attendance is often wrong, and she usually makes stuff up to try and make DCA attendance look better than reality. I've seen her do that numerous times over the past few years. I know it may seem silly coming from some lowly CM, but I've explained repeatedly in the past how many hourly CM's have access to daily attendance figures, the projected attendance for the day as well as the current in park attendance numbers. When you are a Lead of an E Ticket attraction, your manager looks at their pager with the latest hourly attendance figures and tells you the info point blank so you can plan staffing, queue strategy, Fastpass distribution strategy, etc. Attendance info is also widely discussed at the daily Roll Call the Leads have with their managers. That said, I know what attendance numbers are for key weekends, and the stuff Marcie talks about as an attempt to try and discredit Al's numbers are often very wrong. Al always seems to have the right attendance info, and then Marcie will try and throw out different numbers that pump up DCA's real numbers as both an apparent attempt to discredit Al and make DCA look stronger than it is. And as a Disneyland Lead, I've got friends who are Leads in Guest Services and DCA Attractions. When we talk shop at parties or Starbucks after our shifts, the attendance figures for the day are always thrown out as part of the discussion. Marcie seems to live in another world when it comes to that type of info many times. So, if that's TDA's way of spinning the DCA story out there on the fansites, then I am kind of embarassed that TDA would be so amateurish. There are a couple thousand CM's out there in Orange County who know she is incorrect. It just seems like it's the wrong thing to try and doctor up on TDA's part, because it's solid info that is so widely known amongst leadership CM's, hourly and salaried. I really hope Marcie isn't doing her gig with the blessing of TDA. I'd be really embarassed for the TDA execs if that is the case. And of course, by calling Marcie "her", I apparently really meant to say "him".
Originally Posted By fkurucz ^^If DLR's attendance numbers are really the trade secrets they are made out to be, I wouldn't expect TDA PR to reveal them on fan-sites. Marcie's mission might be simply to discredit Al Lutz. It must really chap TDA's hide everytime they read Al being quoted in the mainstream press as a DLR authority.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "Neither. Just that since both are Disney employees chances are that any "insider" is really a PR rep who is paid to promote DLR. Just take whatever tyhey say with a grain of salt." Maybe, but that isn't the gist of what I get from some people here. It seems that some people diregard TDA "insiders" while giving WDI "insiders" more credibility.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "It must really chap TDA's hide everytime they read Al being quoted in the mainstream press as a DLR authority." I cringe everytime I see his name in the news media regarding DLR, especially since he's such an unreliable source. But I suppose what can you expect since he's the only person willing to go on record with the "facts". LOL.
