Originally Posted By Anacon I hope Disney decides to do more than redress Paradise Pier. It really should be demolished, the rides sold to a "regular" park and be redelveolped into two magical lands. We'll get an idea of how effective this beautification project will be when the area around Monsters opens. DCA needs a lot more done to it then a redress to make it a successful Disney park.
Originally Posted By DLFAN79 Its a DAMNE Discgrace and i dotn even know WHY we are havingn this discussion. Its a an AFFRONT to the men and attraction created 30 somethign yers ago! It will COMPLETLY alter the PURPOSE and story of PIRATES. WDI is nothing but a HACH organization! This will NO LONGER be 'Walts Last RIde'. It will be WDI DESTROYING Walts Last Ride to make Igers Promotional Ride. STOP THIS NOW!!!
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 I've witness firsthand lots of people on Pirates that don't know that the ride isn't already based off of the movie, or that the characters in the attraction are the same ones in the movie. I've heard countless times that either one of the two ships in there are the Black Pearl, and people are always looking for Jack Sparrow. So, even though we know which came first, and how loosely the movies are based on the attraction, most people don't. I think these additions will just cause less confusion for average guests, and those of us that know how the attraction used to look will just have to deal with it. I don't think we should start lighting torches and marching on TDA or WDI like some might want. I, for one, will wait to reserve judgement on the new additions until I've seen them myself. I'm not ready to cry "sacrelige" at this point.
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Originally Posted By jmuboy <If there's a clunker in today's column, it's the news that 'golden dreams' may be moved to the DCA entrance area instead of being given the heave-ho it deserves.> I have to humbly disagree with this statement. While Golden Dreams could have been more, the film we have is very well done and does a good job honoring CA. I think locating this film closer to the front gate is a good idea. It really sets the tone for what the park is (should?) be.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I also think moving Golden Dreams to a more centralized, smaller theatre is a good move. Let's hope that now that the original theatre won't be needed, they take that as the impetus to re-build a proper San Francisco section, the NOS of DCA.
Originally Posted By danyoung >The segment I've always liked the least in Pirates (the long boring cave just before the battle scene)...< Really? I live for "No fear have ye of evil curses, says you? Aaaarrrggghhhhh...." That and "You may not surVIVE to pass...this...way...again..." One of my favorite parts!
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt ^^The element of surprise is pretty high is this segment when you've never ridden the attraction before. Over the years, though, I started to notice that the story really lags here. I've long wondered if something was once planned for this area but was axed from the budget during the design process. This really became apparent after experiecing the far superior (at least from a storytelling standpoint) and completely reimagined PoTC at Disneyland Paris.
Originally Posted By DlandDug The long dark cavern is there for an entirely practical purpose. It gets the boats from the inside of the park to the outside of the berm. It runs parallel to the lengthy burning segment between the jail scene and the final gun battle room.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros "I'm thinking the mist screens will be more like the "rat on a limb" effect from indy - nobody will get wet from that." Well, at least they won't get wet. Hopefully it will be high enough, or the boats will travel slowly enough to not take all the mist out on each pass. On a totally unrelated note, I think the story about Golden Dreams is great news. The Sunshine Plaza has always serven no real purpose, and while I do like the design of the sun icon, it would look better a little scaled down and on the wall of a resturant or something. Hopefully the new location will make it more clear that there is an attraction inside, which is fairly difficult to tell in the current location. And the old theater area, through the Route 66 area, which Al did say was one of the areas being worked on, could become a cool new area, hopefully adding some family-friendly attractions to the park.
Originally Posted By pitapan16 <If there's a clunker in today's column, it's the news that 'golden dreams' may be moved to the DCA entrance area instead of being given the heave-ho it deserves.> I have to humbly disagree with this statement. While Golden Dreams could have been more, the film we have is very well done and does a good job honoring CA. I think locating this film closer to the front gate is a good idea. It really sets the tone for what the park is (should?) be. -I very much agree, I too would love to see Golden Dreams in the new entrance plaza in the front. I think that it would be very cool to have this show in the front where people could go and see and then have a good feeling of what California Adventure is about. I know that I would enjoy seeing it there, and I bet alot more people would watch it too.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA Glad to hear all the support for 'Golden Dreams' -- it's a well done film and does support the theme of DCA.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "The long dark cavern is there for an entirely practical purpose. It gets the boats from the inside of the park to the outside of the berm." Of course. I still think there should be something happening in there. Apparently so do Disney's designers.
Originally Posted By Mrs ElderP Honestly, I don't claim to be a Disney expert, but I expected a PotC reworking in conjunction with the first movie. I'm suprised it took this long. I'm excited that it won't be a cheap, fast, fake nod to the movie, but an effort that will involve real time, real money and will hopefully turn our real well.
Originally Posted By gadzuux Maybe they should install an eddie murphy AA into the haunted mansion too. And say, wasn't that natalie wood in "40 Pounds of Trouble" way back in the day? Might as well knock out an AA for her too. I think it's great that the attraction's getting a thorough going-over. I'd even like the rumor about having two separates routes - one for day and one for night. I also think that having THREE jack sparrows might be pushing it just a bit. For me, 'pirates' (and all disney rides) are all about the atmospherics, not a literal telling of the tale. On Indy, he has a few things to say to us along the way, but 'pirates' has a different pacing and presentation. Having capt jack toss off a few cracks during our ride changes the "look and feel" of the entire attraction. Enhancements are one thing, and I'm all them. But 'pirates' is the epitome of "classic disney rides" - this ride has done more to define what "classic" really means, than any other single attraction. You don't mess that lightly. I don't normally think of myself as one of these 'disney preservationists' that can't stand to see anything changed. In fact, I think they've been foot-dragging when it comes NEW attractions. They've done a beautiful job in the past few years of bringing the park back to high levels of care. But so far, that's about all they're doing. It's way past time for a brand-spankin' new high-ticket attraction for disneyland. Anything they announce will almost certainly be three years out by the time it's up and running, and we're not even hearing any rumors yet. Oh yeah - >> Glad to hear all the support for 'Golden Dreams' -- it's a well done film and does support the theme of DCA. << I was hoping that somebody would chime in behind me and bolster my case. Guess not. Sure, it's a well done film and it does support (what's left of) the theme of DCA. But I don't think it's "theme park" quality - well done films are all around us in our everyday environment. It's just not all that special. In fact, I think it contributes to the impression that DCA is "ho-hum". Especially when you take into consideration how many other filmed attractions are in DCA. Five. So GD rounds it out at six total. t That's too many. It "feels" like these are placeholder attractions - something to suck up space until they get around to doing a 'real' attraction. I say sell the VHS and DVD in the gift shop - in a limited numbered series with a tin giftbox and a free whoopi shotglass.
Originally Posted By Pixie Glitter I didn't think Golden Dreams was well done at all. The basic story is interesting, but I thought both the dialogue and the filming was quite cheesy in places. The effect of the Whoopi statues coming to life is amazing, and I like the overall concept for the movie, but well done? I would really disagree with that.
