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    Originally Posted By DlandJB

    Re-read the third page of the Miceage article and you'll see where that is repeatedly mentioned. >>

    Can I just take your word for it?

    Still, I think it is too much to make pirates on the island a permanent thing. I'd prefer if they would put more energy into restoring Ft. Wilderness as a priority.

    I don't mind the band being moved away from the dining area though. Too loud.

    And am I just missing it, or is NOS seriously lacking in jazz musicians these days?
     
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    Originally Posted By dresswhites

    the last few times i have been there there seems to be some good entertainment offerings other than the pirates stuff.
    do they still have the show with Queenie? that was alot of fun.
     
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    Originally Posted By thmar

    Very interesting indeed...
     
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    Originally Posted By Park Hopper

    No one has yet mentioned his news about the People Mover -- the travel pods from Incredibles.

    Is anyone else uncomfortable with the idea of still more elements from cartoon features being introduced to the land.

    Maybe they should just move Tough to be a Bug into the HISTA theater, re-theme Star Tours to be a cab ride through Monstropolis and call the whole place Pixar-land.
     
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    Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA

    <Is anyone else uncomfortable with the idea of still more elements from cartoon features being introduced to the land.>

    I think this fact has been brought up so much, as to seem superfulous.

    Anything new that Disney produces lately seems like it has to be justified with Disney animated characters.

    'Expedition Everest' and 'Mission:Space' and 'Tower of Terror' are recent attractions that have not used animated characters, but yeah, Buzz Lightyear, Stitch, and now Mike and Sully are all part of 'Tomorrowland.'

    'In the future, we'll all be Toons'
     
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    Originally Posted By mrichmondj

    There are no more visionaries of the future left anymore. The salad days of the first half of the 20th Century when the sky seemed to be the limit are over. Now, we all aspire to be cartoons. Very sad.
     
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    Originally Posted By Sweeper

    Does anyone have a vision of the future that doesn't involve another product created by a multi-national corporation being purchased to fill more space in a dump? Innoventions is exactly that vision.

    We might as well go into cartoon fantasy since the "real" future doesn't seem as visionary as in the days of the world's fair. I really don't see our society being future focused anymore in the utopian sense that Walt had.
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    In fact, most visions of the future these days are dystopian - bleak and nightmarish. DL can't very well catch THAT zeitgeist (though arguably WDW unwittingly did with Alien Encounter - one reason I disliked it so much), so they go with safe and cartoony.

    In the 60's, the zeitgeist of futurism WAS far more utopian, and that's a big reason the '67 TL was so great.
     
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    Originally Posted By DouglasDubh

    <In fact, most visions of the future these days are dystopian - bleak and nightmarish.>

    This is true. For example, Mrichmondj keeps predicting a recession next year. It's almost as if he wants one to happen.
     
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    Originally Posted By oc_dean

    >>No one has yet mentioned his news about the People Mover -- the travel pods from Incredibles. <<

    It's huge news in other forums. In one such topic ... It's been viewed/posted with nearly 3,000 clicks.

    This subject is worth it's own topic. Topics like this one tend to capture all the parts to an entire Lutz column.

    The "Sign the petition to bring back the Peoplemover" topic has become somewhat a moot topic .. now that we've heard word that DOSH has successfully put an end to an open-air train Peoplemover!

    So ... I say we start a new topic on it!
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    <<In fact, most visions of the future these days are dystopian - bleak and nightmarish.>>

    <This is true. For example, Mrichmondj keeps predicting a recession next year. It's almost as if he wants one to happen.>

    I don't think most people who have dystopian visions WANT them to happen.

    But let's keep WE out of DL General, shall we?
     
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    Originally Posted By DlandJB

    No one has yet mentioned his news about the People Mover -- the travel pods from Incredibles.>>>

    That falls into the category of "I'll believe it when I see it." Given the condition of the track, and what it would probably cost, I'm skeptical it will happen.
     
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    Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt

    ^^I'm always skeptical about these sort of things too. However, if the revitalization of the Subs proves successful, I'd wager that something will happen to the Peoplemover tracks sooner rather than later. Given Disney's synergetic love affair with Pixar, ab attraction along the lines of the pod-car thingys from The Incredibles seems like a logical idea.
     
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    Originally Posted By DlandJB

    It does indeed, but at least with the subs, the infrastructure was still basically intact.
     
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    Originally Posted By Kayoss

    The cost of restoring the subs was also deemed astronomically economically unfeasble. Nemo branding made the cost worth it to the company. It's going to cost a pretty penny to get the Peoplemover track once again sporting an attraction, but not nearly even CLOSE to the cost of the sub redo. It's a great idea, and worth having the go-ahead.
     
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    Originally Posted By oc_dean

    Though they will have to do some work to the 4,000 foot track .. It's not like they are building one from scratch. The bulk of the costs will be in the vehicles.
     
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    Originally Posted By danyoung

    >In the 60's, the zeitgeist of futurism WAS far more utopian...<

    I just wanted to highlight a sentence that uses zeitgeist, futurism and utopian. That's some really gooder writing, homey!
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    Thanks, dawg.
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    >>'In the future, we'll all be Toons'<<

    You say that like it's a bad thing.

    ; )
     
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    Originally Posted By mrichmondj

    I guess I should buy stock in Acme Co. to build my nest egg for the future!
     

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