Originally Posted By danyoung >I'd say there's a difference between an occasional typo and long rambling posts comprised of run-on sentences with multiple typos...< I know, leobloom - I was just tweaking you.
Originally Posted By ophellia I havent read all the posts in this thread...and I certainly hope I won't be singled out for my writing style, or lack of one...I just want to say I'll be posting a trip report about my recent experience at WDW and it will have positive AND negative comments...I had a wonderful time! However I will be mentioning that I saw a CM texting on stage, as she answered my question, and even took her picture as she continued texting. It's not to be negative, just to report what I experienced...I also got to sing with the Barber Shop Quartet, it was fantastic!
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Agreed, many of us can be balanced, I think people sometimes also simply focus on one facet of a poster. I know I am one of the few on these boards that like Cars and defend it, and I am about to write a really glowing review of TRON Legacy 3D, I thought that was awesome too. It does not contradtic the fact that I am no fan of the princess thing. FWIW - I proudly wore my EPCOT sweatshirt and Disneyland leather jacket to the cinema today and despite taking 2.5 hours to get home (30 miles) from the cinema because of a blizzard, I still felt it was worth while.
Originally Posted By KatieKate123 I feel that it is fine to be well balanced. I also feel that you are entitled to your opinion, but some people are very negative people and they bring down the board. I also do not like being single out for my writing style, because truthfully this is my break place, so my head is not working right. I have a full time job, and then I come home to another full time job of caring for 2 young children. I work very early in the morning 6-2, a hour away from my home, so that I can be here when my children get off the bus, at 3:30. So do I know how to type correctly, yes and I probably should reread my postings, but I just don't have the time.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub Sometimes it is a good idea to use the "Preview" option below the "Post". Occasionally the message you are trying to express is not the way it was typed. I have had people take my comments the exact opposite of what I was implying and everybody was not happy with me. i have even been admined and can not figure out why?
Originally Posted By KatieKate123 Never noticed that thanks. I will defenitely start doing that from now on. My messages were not taken the wrong way, they just weren't in correct school English.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I think Constance said it best a few posts ago - >A little negativity and "calling out" is necessary and healthy. Negativity to the point some people on these boards reach is bizarre, but you learn who those people are and how to avoid them.< And I'm sure glad the Spirit and I are friends. Otherwise I'd be really pissed off at his last post, with quotes like these ->> Now, now Danny, you know I'm not out to piss you off. At your age, it could be dangerous! >A thread like this seems to pop up every 6-9 months and, please pardon me if you are easily offended (especially by strangers posting comments not aimed at any individual ABOUT THEME PARKS!), but they are really just plain stupid and a waste of time.< And - >And as many times as I hear Danny puke forth his tale about DL a decade ago (which I do believe), it doesn't change my feelings one iota.< <<Where to begin? First off, I only puke things out when I've eaten a bad pizza. I tell the same story because it's totally appropriate to the discussion.>> And I'll begin by saying I was just referring to the fact you reference this again and again over the years as a way of saying 'things may not be what they used to be, or even should be, but they aren't THAT bad'. That is what you believe, right? Is it appropriate to this discussion? Sure. It just keeps coming back. And I don't see it changing anyone's opinion. <<It's no surprise that the Spirit's mind isn't changed by intelligent discourse, nor am I attempting to do so.>> No. We both know how much I hate intelligent discourse. It's why I shop at Walmart, believe every word my leaders or FOX news tells me and why I am going to bed tonight with my Duffy! <<Second, how can a thread that has gone on for 194 posts be "just plain stupid and a waste of time"? It's obvious that people feel strongly about this issue on both sides of the fence, and I think it's been a very valuable discussion. Not trying to squash intelligent discourse, are you Spirit?>> It's stupid and a waste of time because the whole point is that some people don't want to read negative stuff. It's a freaking discussion board. If all you want is positive pixie dust start your own site and don't allow any divergent POV. People feel strongly over the fact others can hold negative views of the way theme parks are run and (mis)managed? And THAT, not the reasons people feel that way, is worthy of discussion? Sorry, Danny, but I think the topic is a waste of time. Not to be negative or anything ... <<Look, I'm just like 2oony - I'm savvy enough to be able to tell who the negative Nellies are (Spirit, I'm looking at YOU!)>> Do you really believe that? Do you really think I'm out to bash unfairly? Would you like me to post how much time I've spent at Disney resorts world-wide in 2010 and how, for the most part, I've been very pleased by my experiences? I'm not negative, Danny. I'm realistic. And I'm not very happy with WDW these days (and, yes, I'm showing it by spending a fraction of the time and money there I once did), but I still love the place. But I can separate the good and the bad and the behind the scenes hows and whys. And when I post my 'Spirited Worldly Comparison' thread talking about how WDW stacks up (or doesn't) with TDR (and the other resorts too), I'm quite sure the negativity toward me will hit an all-time high in these parts. I'm OK with that. Telling the cold hard truth is often not the easiest thing to do. <<and who is just here to have fun, help folks out with park info, and generally have a fine time. What I've been trying to say is that there's a difference between pointing out the negative (which can be a great thing) and being so negative that you'll throw in slurs about the Timeshare Kingdom of the World and think you're being cute and funny when you're actually being harmful.>> I have often been called both cute and funny. Hell, people have even suggested standup for me. I also don't think it's a 'slur' to call WDW 'The Timeshare Kingdom of the World' because that's exactly what it has become. Now, it's only a slur if you think DVC is Satan's work. I don't believe I've ever said that. <<Go ahead and don't care (as I'm sure my friend the Spirit doesn't care).>> Danny, I care about so many things that it hurts. Often. My heart can be heavy. My soul can be tired. But one thing I absolutely don't care one bit about is the perception that a Disney discussion board is 'too negative' ... that's just stupid beyond all rational thought. What do I care about? What hurts my soul? Returning to the USA after months abroad and walking thru O'Hare where I witness a wheelchair-bound seven-year-old being 'legally' molested by a TSA agent. That Danny, is something I care about. Coming back to my community to find even more businesses have closed up shop and find out more friends have lost jobs, that's something I care about. Seeing a turtle about to get crushed in the middle of the road, that's something I care about. How some stranger feels when I rip something that WDW management does, doesn't matter one bit to me. Not. At. All. <<But KatieKate is absolutely right - the overall tone of Laughinplace threads has become extremely negative, to the point of it just not being much fun to be involved with. I know, I have the right to stay or leave just like anyone else, and I won't let the door hit me on the way out. I choose to stay, but even I am affected by the downer tone at times, to the point that as I get close to a WDW trip I won't read much on LP. I'm moving into a pixiedust zone, and I really want to stay there a couple weeks before a Florida trip.>> People can stay or go. People can choose to let things upset them or not. People can visit WDW or not. None of that much matters to me. I like it here. I like most of the people. I have real world friends here. I think overall the site is wonderful. But there is a whole world out there for those who simply can't stand it when someone takes a shot at Disco Yeti, the DDP or the job Erin Wallace does. <<It's all about degrees, folks. There's a difference between saying "I had a great trip last week, but there were a few things that bummed me out", and "I don't go to WDW anymore cuz it's too crappy and too commercial and too timeshare-y and I hate FP and I hate the food and there hasn't been a new attraction since the stone age". Degrees, my friends. Shades of balance. And I think we've been a little off.>> Honestly, I respect your opinion, but considering the general trending downward of WDW for the entire 21st century I'd say this place generally goes easy on the Mouse.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Oh my God, Spirit was right.>> I have nothing to add, Leo. Just love seeing that. I firmly believe that for many LPers, that will be their last words ever uttered before they move on to other more Spiritual realms! ;-)
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Agreed, many of us can be balanced,>> Yes. But we also have to face the reality that many in the Disney online community are not balanced in the mental health/real-world sense too ... <<I think people sometimes also simply focus on one facet of a poster. I know I am one of the few on these boards that like Cars and defend it, and I am about to write a really glowing review of TRON Legacy 3D, I thought that was awesome too. It does not contradtic the fact that I am no fan of the princess thing.>> Cars was awesome. And I can't wait to see Tron Legacy as well as Potter and even Tangled and the Little Fockers and True Grit remake too ... lots to see this holiday season! <<FWIW - I proudly wore my EPCOT sweatshirt and Disneyland leather jacket to the cinema today and despite taking 2.5 hours to get home (30 miles) from the cinema because of a blizzard, I still felt it was worth while.>> Yeah. Just saw your pics on FB. You guys are getting hammered this winter. I'd love to be over there in the snow ... if I didn't have to actually drive/travel in it. BTW, check your email. I need something from you (in addition to the money and sex!) ;-)
Originally Posted By danyoung Well, I've said my piece, and others have said theirs. I'll just say this one more thing - >But one thing I absolutely don't care one bit about is the perception that a Disney discussion board is 'too negative' ... that's just stupid beyond all rational thought.< No, it isn't stupid at all. If you'd read the thread, you'd find that quite a few folks look at things the same way I do. That should tell you something. You can dismiss it as stupid if that's what you need to keep up your mental picture of the world. But if you really were being realistic, Spirit, you'd see that there are some valid opinions here.
Originally Posted By KatieKate123 I agree with Danyoung, and this is my final word on this subject also. I also believe that 2 much negativitiy is awful, not just on here, but anywhere in your life. When someone constantly puts something down that you love, how does it make you feel?
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost Well, KatieKate, it's kind of a human nature thing. The old saying "Familiarity breeds contempt" holds true in many ways. Since we all are Fans, in one way or the other, we all just assume that everyone is completely aware of the positives and therefore become alarmed when something negative comes into our conscienceness. It becomes the idea that there is no need to repeat the positives, we already know those, but, look out, we just noticed something that reinforces our idea that all is going to hell in a hand basket. When all is said and done, the complaints on these boards do not amount to a hill of beans. There are literally millions of people that go to the Disney Parks every year. Those that read this board a but a speck in that universe. When it gets to the point that there are millions on this board expressing upset, then and only then will it mean anything. I have stuck out this particular Discussion board for my years. I have seen a decline in some things at WDW, but nothing in comparison to the pluses that have been added, so I am not prepared to panic about it. Some express their opinions in such an arrogant manner that they actually think others are idiots for not agreeing with them. Fortunately I am old enough to be confident in my own opinions and although I will express them, I don't expect everyone to agree all the time. They don't have to...all I have to do is know my own feelings and base my opinions on them. We are but a small cog in a very, very small wheel. I will discuss positives as well as negatives, and there are some, but unless someone has an argument beyond, "I'm an fool for thinking that way", it is like water off a ducks back. It has no affect or long range influence on me. So keep on being positive, the world can be pretty grim and anything we can hang onto that is basically fun and basically good, is something to be coveted.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub I think you have started a new 101 Dalmation post thing, K123, with the #234 above. just looked funny
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub I hate to say this but I almost feel like boycotting a certain upcoming trip report. Does anybody else feel this way? Sounds so negative of me...
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub It is really just a vague feeling because I have always enjoyed the gossipy appeal and actually think these boards can be boring when a certain poster is busy exploring the real world. Maybe I am worried about hearing the truth that is vaguely worrying me. Surely I am not jealous...I literally just woke up and have not had coffee and I have a headache cause of caffeine withdrawal. Maybe I was trying to be funny and I am never funny at being funny! But your response was speedy so I take it you have had caffeine aplenty in your time zone.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I thought that could be the case, given how open you normally seem to be to different perspectives. I for one cannot wait to read it. there are some perspectives I have already heard where I do not necessarily agree, others that are facinating, and I know the poster in question is often balanced in their view, contrary to some. I know we will get a warts and all rather than an agenda to make other places look good or bad on purpose.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub I am trying to be careful with the negativity in my real world seeing how it can affect friendship and "this time of the year" is not the time to be negative. I think the holiday rush is getting to me but I actually made a spur of the moment decision to leave the mall giving up the perfect parking spot to drive to the other end of the city to hopefully purchase a ticket to a concert that was probably sold out and I forgot my cell phone so could not call to check on availability. But the Kansas City Symphony performing their yearly Holiday Concert was just what my spirit needed! ANd now I wonder why we allow the good to overpower the bad as I awake grouchy with the desire to read more comments about negativity.
