Originally Posted By KatieKate123 oh and how am I trying to rewrite History? Very confused on this!!!.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance You know how people like to complain to co-workers about work and/or their boss? It brings people closer and gives them something in common. When people complain on this board, it's just a way for them to get close and snuggly to each other. When they say something like "Walt Disney World is ran down and tired!" what they really mean is "I need a hug". It's common human psychology.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I get plenty of hugs, believe me. WDW is run down (poor management) compared to many of it's brethren (though can we leave Paris out of this one ok, they could be twins in some respects when it comes to treatment - shared management at times)
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Ok! Off to Alton Towers waterpark Cariba Creek tomorrow, wonder how it will fair in the quality control stakes?
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Ok! Off to Alton Towers waterpark Cariba Creek tomorrow, wonder how it will fair in the quality control stakes?
Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt Have fun Dave.. We have an indoor water park nearby & we never seem to get there!
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo We'll try thanks. It is a resort of two hotels with an indoor Caribbean themed water park, live entertainment at night and a great minigolf course. The theme park has a few rides open, so we may check it out too. We were very impressed last time, and we are hoping for a great time this time too. The kids don't know we are going. <a href="http://old.towerstimes.co.uk/Resort/Cariba/caribacreek.htm" target="_blank">http://old.towerstimes.co.uk/R...reek.htm</a>
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Dave...will you adopt me? You are ALWAYS going to the cool places! Have fun.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Thanks Wahooskipper, we try. This one is for the company Christmas party.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I said why do people have to post only negative things, can't they post positive things also<<< They do that. We've said this already. Not everyone here is 100% in the red when it comes to opinions on WDW. I don't understand why you keep saying this, after we keep telling you the same things. No offense.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>When they say something like "Walt Disney World is ran down and tired!" what they really mean is "I need a hug".<< You mean to clutch plush... I'll bring that up at the next Doom and Gloom meeting, this weekend. ;-)
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<The biggest problem that I find on these boards is the arrogant, condescending manner that some individuals feel that they have to use.>> Really? Who uses such a tone? I must be tone deaf because I sure haven't noticed it. <<If you disagree with someone, that's OK. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But some seem hellbent on displaying a certain "Disney-er than Thou" type of attitude that is just plain rude.>> Classic, Duck. Just classic. <<If the only way that you can feel better about yourself is by putting other people down, what does that say about you? On some sites, this behavior would be called trolling.>> Most sites are almost unbearable to read let alone participate in because of the sheer idiocy (what you term trolling) on MAGICal display on a regular basis ... and the fact that information is made up and allowed to sit unchallenged. The LP is a great site because you can have informed, intelligent, adult discussions and disagreements without getting personal attacks (for the most part). "America can’t move forward until we once again believe...that everyone can enter Frontierland if they try hard enough, and that no one will be denied a dream because a private party has rented out Tomorrowland." Frank Rich, NY Times
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 >>>but I would say if enough people say 'sure things aren't working like they once did, but who cares? I'm on vacation.' we all wind up losing because it allows Disney to lower standards more. I hope you would understand that IS how a 21st century American corporation operates. They want YOU (ALL OF US) to accept lower and lower quality for higher and higher prices. Who wins and who loses in that equation?<<< <<And hence why I have wasted so much of my time trying to open people's eyes so they vocalise too. But you know what, it is not working, people are content to accept mediocrity.>> Well, as I've said many times both to you in person and in posts here, people in the 21st century (especially Americans) are much more willing to accept mediocrity (or worse) in so many facets of life that seeing theme parks that aren't what they were or should be is just so low down the list of what's troubling in 2010. <<So I am now on a quest to find new interests. After our trip to DLP we are heading to Europa PArk and Phantasialand in Germany, and later in the year, Eftling in the Netherlands. I cannot wait, and am more excited about those trips than our DLP trip.>> Well, I would have enjoyed seeing DLP in 2010 just so I could say I visited every Disney resort in one year for the first time ever ... but I'm no Leemac! ;-) That said, while I'm down (and quite justifiably) with WDW, I'm very excited by the product Disney is delivering in Tokyo and Hong Kong and Anaheim and on the high seas. <<Off to the Alton Towers resort tomorrow (which offers better value than many Disney resorts) and looking forward to using the water park which is an indoor caribbean park with a theming on par with Typhoon Lagoon. and yet many people in the UK have been brainwashed that they have to go to Florida for a quality experience. Well sadly it is not true.>> Have a GREAT time! Email coming soon ... "America can’t move forward until we once again believe...that everyone can enter Frontierland if they try hard enough, and that no one will be denied a dream because a private party has rented out Tomorrowland." Frank Rich, NY Times
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<That's the point. I win when I go to Disney World, because I have a blast with my two children. >> And you know what, Katie? That's terrific. Spending quality time with your kids at a nice place. That's what you should focus on. <<I wouldn't go if I didn't like it.>> And guess what? None of us here who are critical of WDW would go if we didn't like (or love) the place either. You kinda keep missing this important point. <<No one forces you all to pay for the park to go to something that is falling apart. As you all sound why do you even go back? If it's so awful and everything has fallen apart why spend your money there? >> No one here has said WDW is 'falling apart' or that it is 'so awful' ... putting words/feelings onto others isn't cool. If you don't get why someone is saying something, then by all means you should ask them why they are saying something or where they are coming from. But attatching opinions to them that are not accurate does you no favors in any discussion. <<Maybe I do have rose colored glasses, and you know what thats fine for me because I wouldn't want any other glasses. I like being happy, and being in the moment. When I started this thread, I was over emotional only because I was having a emotional week, I am not ususally like that, but I do sometimes have bad weeks. I am not a negative person though, and I am not going to let you'll negativity bring me down.>> Sometimes posting when emotional or having a bad week isn't smart. Just some advice you can take or leave. And some of the people you may feel are negative may just be realistic and seeing what's in front of them. "America can’t move forward until we once again believe...that everyone can enter Frontierland if they try hard enough, and that no one will be denied a dream because a private party has rented out Tomorrowland." Frank Rich, NY Times
Originally Posted By KatieKate123 You guys have the right to your opinions, so every time I read a negative comment I will give you my opinion. Though I had a emotional week, I do realize this one very important thing. Do I notice things wrong at Disney? Yes I notice things wrong almost everywhere. Do I concentrate on these things? No because life is 2 short. You may say we'll I don't concentrate on them either but you do enough to come back from your vacation, and post things about it. Do you know at Walmart yesterday there were only 4 checkers with about a hundred person crowd. Long waits, but since I was enjoying the conversation with the person ahead of me it felt very fast. GOOD THINGS!!!!! You guys seems to want everything perfect, life isn't like that.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***oh and how am I trying to rewrite History? Very confused on this!!!*** I realize that sometimes it's hard to keep the comments (and who's on which side of the issue) straight, but in this case I'm reasonably sure that Goof wasn't talking ABOUT you, but rather about the people commenting AGAINST your take. He was on your side, and accusing others of re-writing history. (I have no idea, cause I missed the original thread...I only chimed in here because I was bored )
Originally Posted By Mr X ***That said, while I'm down (and quite justifiably) with WDW, I'm very excited by the product Disney is delivering in Tokyo and Hong Kong and Anaheim and on the high seas*** DUDE, your Hong Kong fetish grows tiresome. Hong Kong Disneyland sucks, bro. You know it, and I know it, and a billion Chinese know it or else they wouldn't have such incredible attendance problems!
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost Man it's getting to the point where we need a program to keep current on who said what. It's not all that important, but just to clearify...I commented in a post about Katie trying to post a happy post and being put down in a number of ways by folks (I don't even remember who) for not being realistic about the conditions of the place. Spirit then commented that I was trying to rewrite history because he (I think) was believing that I was referring to this thread which was a "why so negative" thread. No fight just a correction. KatieKate, you were not involved in that statement at all. Film at 11! Try the Veal!
Originally Posted By sjhym333 I think everyone is entitled to their opinions positive and negative. I am glad that people go to WDW and have a great time and find a way to enjoy the magic that is Disney. I think the people who post negative things have an important role. At a time when Disney seems to be compromising its basic philosophies about its theme parks, the negative posters here and on other boards are trying to encourage Disney to maintain standards. Something that I think it is important to remember is that the negative posters are not asking for extraordinary things. They are just asking Disney to maintain the quality that Disney itself used to hold itself to. Disney was the one who set their own standard, told fans thru publicity what those standards were and encouraged guest feedback. I think that is what makes people frustrated.
