Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Well thank you Ms. O'Donnell once again for deciding what's right and wrong. And the lemur boy and his friend are appearing on Jimmy Kimmel tonight.< William Hung all over again, these people stage this, no sympathy from me for them
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Some of these people who we see the 'raging criticism' of same there exactly for that reason, I truly believe that. They have their 'act' pre staged and thought out - from a storming out exit to the crying and mock shock. How many of those people did you see at the end of the show singing other songs - like many of the ones ripped in Minneapolis sining Prince in closing clips...... Does anyone ever get 'hurt' by comments there, I am sure they do, no different than if they made a recording of their horrid singing and brought it to a record company. But most of the ones getting ripped the most I truly believe came there expecting just that and seeing if they could parlay that into some $ somewhere - i.e. Tonight show / Letterman - heck Rosie feels so bad, maybe she'll have them on the View.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Just read in the Seattle P-I that Jonathan Jayne (the friend of the guy with the large eyes) is mildly autistic. It turns out that he also plays the drums and piano.<< I stand corrected. Taking advantage of an autistic kid is about as low as you can go. But did the judges specifically mock him or did they just tell him it wasn't going to happen? Regardless, they put an awkward, chubby kid on TV for us to laugh at while he sings. Again, if you know what you're getting into (and anyone who has watched five minutes of Idol knows *exactly* what they're getting into) then I have a hard time feeling bad for you. But did this kid really know? It certainly changes my tune (no pun intended).
Originally Posted By SFH When adults show up, wait in line, and sign waivers, they are opening themselves up to being portrayed on TV. How are Randy, Simon, and Paula supposed to know who has legit disabilities? SFH
Originally Posted By Dznygrl <<But did the judges specifically mock him or did they just tell him it wasn't going to happen?>> Well when he first walked into the room they showed a shot of the judges looking as though their eyes are being assaulted, but after the kid did his thing they might have sensed that he had some kind of disability because they were relatively polite to him and let him down easy.
Originally Posted By smeeeko I saw the Seattle show and while I personally enjoy watching the tone deaf people, I agree that laughing at people that clearly are clueless about their abilities and mocking their appearance is JUST WRONG and unprofessional. I think that the one fellow (the autistic guy? who said he did instramentals?) perhaps went on a dare and didn't understand it was a singing contest. A lot of folks seem to think that's it more than singing that they can get by doing a dance or something. I also think that personally if I was crazy enough to think I could cary a tune I would treat the audition like any job interview. Dress appropriately. Look nice, comb your hair & put on a nice shirt and pants. Keep to the subject of what people are asking you. When they tell you to stop singing do so and listen to what they are saying. I really think Simon is mean, but he does give some good advice to people he thinks are good, even if doesn't seem like it. American Idol is supposed to be about undiscovered talent.. not who can sing the the National Anthem.. you need a better repertoire than that. I think that was sort of kindly explained to the one guy but to just laugh at someone (when they sing the national anthem better than I ever could) is wrong. I think that was the 'chubby' fellow. The other guy "the lemur fellow" he actually reminded me of Steve Buschemi but he's a character actor (think Fargo and uh.. what was that Armegeddon flick?) He's a good actor that Steve Buschemi, I really do like him! I don't know if he can sing, but he can act. sigh.. oh well. They should at least wait til the person leaves the room & do better editing. I would never have thought "LEMUR!" That's just me. You know the acting biz is a LOT worse than anything Simon can say to them.
Originally Posted By DAR I thought they were relatively nice to Jonathan, they didn't seem to make any mean comments.
Originally Posted By DAR <<I really think Simon is mean, but he does give some good advice to people he thinks are good, even if doesn't seem like it.>> His advice is the only one I would take seriously, the other two are pretty much a joke.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <Some of these people who we see the 'raging criticism' of same there exactly for that reason, I truly believe that. They have their 'act' pre staged and thought out - from a storming out exit to the crying and mock shock.> I think some of them are there trying to be this year's William Hung (I said that first, I think), but I'm guessing that's a minority of them. The reactions of some of them... they couldn't ALL be that good of actors. It's certainly not that easy for a non-actor to cry on cue, for instance. Bottom line for me: if there are ANY of those people who are set up, encouraged to believe they are good by the initial judges, and then sent in and filmed specifically to be laughed at for our amusement, that's not cool.
Originally Posted By melekalikimaka Hey, the two guys we've been talking about are on the Today show right now. These guys are kind of clueless but I'm not so sure they feel they were humiliated. And they don't regret being on. And now they want to be movie stars. Sigh.
Originally Posted By Lisann22 I hear everything everyone saying about the auditions being mean, etc. I think it was pretty ugly this year too. I wish they'd show us more of the people with good voices. However, I'll still be watching when it gets to the final 12 or so, it's just good TV and I enjoy music and the show a lot. A weakness I guess. LOL
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Hey, the two guys we've been talking about are on the Today show right now. These guys are kind of clueless but I'm not so sure they feel they were humiliated. And they don't regret being on. And now they want to be movie stars. Sigh.< exactly what I said early on in this thread - it's William Hung all over again..
Originally Posted By gadzuux If you want to be the next william hung, you've gotta have a gimmick - some schtik that people can hang on. Hung had 'she bangs' and that silly little dance with the circling fists. These guys got nuthin'.
Originally Posted By Disneyland55 Did anyone else notice that most of the people "from Seattle" were not actually from Seattle (especially the bad ones)?! People seemed to flock from all over the country to audition in Seattle. So quit picking on Seattle, American Idol! I might have laughed harder than I have ever laughed before in my life when the contestant (Number one idol fan) said, "American Idol and me are like BFF." I could not believe she REALLY said that. I feel bad that they let her through to Randy/Paula/Simon knowing that she was terrible. (But then again, like Paula said, she gets to make an appearance on her favorite show.) I think (maybe) that they put that footage (Simon saying the kid looked like a bushbaby) on screen on purpose just to get a reaction out of people and get people talking about the show. (Just a random thought.) Didn't they have a similar couple of "friends" who met while waiting to audition last season? This whole segment was oddly familiar. I seem to recall that neither one of them passed then either. I hope they don't make a habit of doing this each season. I am with y'all who don't think they should pass people through just to make fun of and crush them in the final audition. The people who are bad on purpose should not be allowed the satisfaction of getting through and the people who think they are good but are not should not be led on like this. I also don't like how they made such a huge emphasis on making fun of people who do not look perfect and people who live with a mental disablity. Some of the people they kept showing just to make their point that too many "ugly people" showed up in Seattle were not even shown talking or singing at any point during the show. Sorry for writing a NO-VEL.
Originally Posted By Disneyland55 Oh yeah, did anyone else get the feeling that the "software engineer who was encouraged by his co-workers to try out, who does not usually sing but plays guitar, who sang Simon's favorite song in its entirety, with "bunny teeth" and a wandering eye, was ACTING??? I saw it twice, and I really think he was acting the whole time. He seemed to be going for a "Napolean Dynamite" type character. Maybe he is not a COMPLETELY different person than he portrayed, but I definately think he was acting.
Originally Posted By Disneyland55 Napolean Dynamite OR maybe Forrest Gump... Didn't he say, "That's all I have to say about that" when he was talking to Ryan?
Originally Posted By Fe Maiden I saw the highlight of the two guys on the Today show. Now they have agents. You just know some person who strangely resembles an anteater is sitting at home thinking next year they could be the next "lemur boy".
Originally Posted By Labuda "And that bleach blonde and her mother. O M G They take the cake." I was soooooooooooo offended that they said that girl was from Texas! She auditioned in Seattle, her Mom was there in Seattle, and onscreen they labelled her as living in Seattle, but they SAID she's from Texas. That's just WRONG!
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <If you want to be the next william hung, you've gotta have a gimmick - some schtik that people can hang on. Hung had 'she bangs' and that silly little dance with the circling fists. These guys got nuthin'. < I agree gadzuux....but they are getting the star treatment as if they did. William Hung was one smart guy and parlayed his 'act' into a paid for education.....these 2 are just goofs
