American truckers to be displaced...

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    >>(we need the space) <<

    And no, we are not growing. We are consolidating campuses. We closed our Greeley site a few years ago and moved what was left to Fort Collins, and we are now consolidating other sites to Fort Collins.
     
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    Originally Posted By YourPalEd

    SSssst. Thanks big buddy. Next pitstop, a Mickey twister w/cheese, has your name on it. Capstan, have you cleaned the pincher wheel, over?

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    Originally Posted By vbdad55

    ^^^^^^^^

    don't worry I hear someone from Thailand will take care of it
     
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    Originally Posted By Capstan

    I give up. All I can say is, there won't be that many foriegners on our roads and they'll be restricted to one major corridor, as I understand it, and it will be up to us to enforce our own laws of safety. As a driver, I do okay and won't mind sharing the road with a few others, but I can't see how my job, moving freight in the United States, could possibly be exported to Brazil. Now that's a stupid argument! Peace, Sisters and Brothers.
     
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    Originally Posted By vbdad55

    as a trucker no it won't - but don't assume most others who work for your company won't be gone...brush up on your Portugeuese --
     
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    Originally Posted By fkurucz

    But the displaced have nothing to worry about. They can get jobs a "Human directionals":

    <a href="http://www.vdare.com/sailer/051218_labor.htm" target="_blank">http://www.vdare.com/sailer/05
    1218_labor.htm</a>
     
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    Originally Posted By fkurucz

    >>All I can say is, there won't be that many foriegners on our roads and they'll be restricted to one major corridor<<

    For now. Then there will another push to liberalize things a bit more, then another, and another, until you find yourself either laid off (if you are an employee) or unable to find loads to haul (if you are an independent).

    Also, this plan is targetting west and east coast ports. Why pay longshoremen 6 figure salaries when the same work (unloading container ships) can be done in Tampico or Lazaro Cardenas? Mexican longshoremen are paid less than an American burger flipper.
     
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    Originally Posted By Capstan

    Well, if they want to emigrate here, and are qualified to fill a position with my company, more power to 'em! My grandparents were immigrants.
     
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    Originally Posted By fkurucz

    So what happens if enough of them show up to replace every driver at your company and will work at half your current wage?

    Will it still be more power to them? Will you gracefully accept a 50% pay cut?
     
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    Originally Posted By fkurucz

    >>My grandparents were immigrants.<<

    Irrelevant. Those were different times. There was no globalization back then.
     
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    Originally Posted By Capstan

    What if the sky should fall?
     
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    Originally Posted By jonvn

    Ed, I've seen two people jump off that bridge now.
     
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    Originally Posted By fkurucz

    >>What if the sky should fall?<<

    You really think that you won't be affected by globalization, don't you? You figured "hey, it doesn't matter where the junk comes from, I'll have a job hauling it to WalMart". But WalMart wants to make even more profit, and they are not happy one bit whatsoever with your middle class paycheck. And they will do something about it.
     
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    Originally Posted By jonvn

    Leaving who to buy there? I just don't understand who they eventually expect to buy things.

    Maybe they'll start closing down stores here, as the nation is reduced to utter poverty, and start opening up in other countries, to suck them dry.
     
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    Originally Posted By fkurucz

    Merchants can make a living in 3rd world countries. WalMart is also the #1 retailer in Mexico.
     
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    Originally Posted By vbdad55

    <What if the sky should fall?<

    very cavalier..but that piece that landed not far from you ........

    it may not affect you directly for a while, but I guarantee it will affect someone close to you and soon ( if it haan't already ) -

    10,000,000 jobs is 1:27 people -- those odds arent real good.

    and many of those people got new jobs -- service jobs for a fraction of the wage and hence a fraction of the purchasing power they used to have...eventually that becomes a serious issue. Next time thru the drive thru look at the age of the person working the window -- it will be a 50 something who is no longer employable because they are too big a risk from a health care standpoint for a company
     
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    Originally Posted By YourPalEd

    Sssst. Two to tango, big daddy. take care not to stretch the stitches, over.

    ssst.
     
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    Originally Posted By Big Thunder

    IMO this is not good. I'm not a trucker nor in the transportation industry but I know that substandard trucks are a major issue and just policing our domestic trucks is a tough enough job.

    I think this may help large US company's bottom line, especially those that have maquiladora plants and Mexican made suppliers [large retail and electronic companies] They can now cut more costs on freight. But I think that overall it is not worth it, we are sacrficing our standards and giving away US jobs.

    As a guy who is constantly hammered about freight costs for his products to be shippe to their various destinations, I feel this is not good even if I can now ship something cheaper. I'd much rather keep our USA drivers at their US wages and US standards.

    I used to walk a fine line on my opinion of free trade, I was never quite happy with Nafta. I am now very much opposed.
     
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    Originally Posted By fkurucz

    ^^It lands very close.

    My next door neighbor worked at IBM for over 20 years in middle management. Then he got his walking papers. After 4 years he still had not found a real job. He side money by taking videos at weddings, but that didn't come close to replacing his near 100K salary. Eventually the stress cost him his marriage.

    My other neighbor also works at IBM. He has been luckier, but is constantly worried about the show dropping. They haven't bought a new car since forever. He would love a new car, but doesn't dare take on any debt.
     
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    Originally Posted By fkurucz

    >>I think this may help large US company's bottom line, especially those that have maquiladora plants and Mexican made suppliers<<

    Actually, this is about reducing shipping costs from China. Chinese goods would be shipped to Mexican ports, unloaded by low paid Mexican dock workers, and shipped as far north as Winnipeg by low paid Mexican truckers.

    If you're a Globalist, its a win-win.
     

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