Originally Posted By danyoung >I don't believe this is true. I'd have to see some evidence (please< Take a look at posts 109 & 110 in this thread. Back in the bad ol' days we'd be another 40 posts in by now, going at it. I completely disagree with his view of micechat, and it's incredibly obvious that he does indeed still have a problem with Al. But I stated that, he refuted it, and hopefully that'll be the end of it. I am guilty of tweaking the guy from time to time, though. And I wouldn't be surprised to find that he does the same. Sometimes a good knock-down drag-out can make the day go by faster!
Originally Posted By jonvn What it comes down to, Dan, is I really don't want to argue about personal things. I'll argue about Disney and politics and such, but I really detest it when it becomes personal, and I try to back away from that when I see it happening. I'm not very good at that, sometimes, and will just keep at it, but it really is not what I enjoy. Argue about how terrible cartoons are in the parks? OK, that's great, but telling me I'm an idiot? Eh...I don't like that. I can keep up things for a long time, too, I just don't have that long to live. The only thing I have with Al is that I don't care for him, or things he sometimes says. That's unfortunate, but that's how it goes. I don't have an "issue" with him other than that.
Originally Posted By dshyates I think the internet is like talk radio in that people will say things that they would never say in person. Can you see Michael Savage spewing his vitriolic venom at a GLBT function.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: Relationships are often very tricky--even among the closest of friends. The human mind is so susceptible to misinterpretation--especially in forums where you can't hear the tone of voice or see a facial reaction. The situation you have described, Mr. X, is all too common. My sisters and I are sure you weren't trying to wage a war against TDL fan. You just don't seem the type who would do that. At the same time, he may have been going through some personal difficulties that caused him to react in a way that wasn't normal for him. Whatever the case, it makes us sad whenever friendships come to an end. With the world becoming more and more unstable, this is the time everyone should really be pulling together--if at all possible. ORWEN: Hugs to all--just because.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I do not want to wade in too much to the personal details of bust ups. But what I can say personally is that a while ago we were going through a few challenges at home and I came on the boards as a relief. I was hyper sensitive and definately not myself. thankfully some very kind friends had the conviction to talk to me about it, and it really did help. I try to give those we know the benefit of doubt. And as I have known for years, and was reconfirmed over the last 3 weeks, LP people are generally good people!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 13 pages of posts about TDLFAN and me?!??!?! I guess I'm going to have to change my nickname from 'Little Rod' (my porn handle, sadly) to 'Lightning Rod.' How about I tell you guys that Space Mountain's budget redo has received more $$$, and the timetable moved back, due to concern about competing with Harry Potter ... or that DVC is Jay Rasulo's top priority and coming to Lake Tahoe (and likely Spain) in the very near future ... or that Guest Relations at MK has been inundated by complaints due to scheduling weekend PP Parties (not the fun kind either!) but Phil Holmes and Erin Wallace don't care ... or that DL is about to have an E-Ticket greenlighted (no, not Star Tours 2.0, this is in addition to that) or ... wait a sec ... I'd rather not. This way you can all talk about me, I don't have to post and deal with people who can't discuss things rationally and the LP WDW Board can go back to those good old days of 13 posts in a day. Besides, TDLFAN will kill me if he finds out I posted (so don't anyone tell him) and I'll head back into cyber obscurity quite happily. Maybe I can start drinking ... St.Patty's Day is coming up soon and it's never too early. I'll pop back in 4-5 days to see what you kids are talking 'bout! Wanna bet this thread keeps on giving ...
Originally Posted By Roger55 ^Exactly the self promotion/elevation of self importance that I WON'T be missing. As far as the information... sure some of the insight will be missed, but there are other sources that provide similar information. Stepping away now. Feeling faint from the lack of oxygen.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 ^^^But how accurate will it be, and how fast will we get the information?
Originally Posted By jonvn "13 pages of posts about TDLFAN and me?!??!?!" Hey, you said you were going to send me an email. Where is it?
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: So nice to see you again, Spirit, dear. As you can see, MOST of us around the Laughing Place pond appreciate hearing from you. So, please keep on telling us what you hear about. Contrary to what some have said, you are NOT full of yourself. It appears that certain others may simply be jealous that they don't have the connections that you have and this causes them to become mean spirited. Regardless of that, you're a fine soul with plenty of interesting tidbits to share. ORWEN: By the way, us Cauldron girls were part of the mix of Magic Kingdom guests who complained at City Hall about all the excessive Pirates and Princess Parties. ORGOCH: Sure were! Too bad them idiots in charge don't wanna' hear how folks feels 'bout their bad choices on how they run the parks! Just goes ta show they's in the wrong jobs!!
Originally Posted By jkayjs <<ORWEN: By the way, us Cauldron girls were part of the mix of Magic Kingdom guests who complained at City Hall about all the excessive Pirates and Princess Parties.>> If three Cauldron gals can't scare,I mean talk some sense into them no one can.
Originally Posted By mousermerf I'd like to know what's going on - and stop having to hear people's "opinions" on all the crapola that's being put out lately and how sucessful it is. So.. *scoots up chair* Tell me 'bout Epcot.
Originally Posted By dennis-in-ct <<<lets the bygones be gone, and let's all get back to discussing Disney!>> Agreed. Let all else go "off-line" I am very happy to hear MK finally has an e-ticket green-lit. It's about time
Originally Posted By dennis-in-ct opps ... never mind. I thought the e-ticket was WDW. I re-read Spirit's post and see that DL is getting a new e-ticket. I hope it is open by 2011 or 2012 for my next visit to the DL Resort. I can't wait!!
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 >><<lets the bygones be gone, and let's all get back to discussing Disney!>> Agreed. Let all else go "off-line"<< I'm all in favor of letting bygones be bygones. I hate interpersonal conflict between people I like. But -- no offense, Dennis -- while I don't want to inflame or to "take sides," I think it's fair and appropriate to respond here to some of the things that have already been posted ON-line. I want to point out -- no offense, X -- that when someone reads only one account of a conflict (as has been the case on this thread), they are, de facto, not getting the whole picture. My understanding of the "TDLFAN failed to meet with another LP'er at DisneySea!" "incident" includes: that TDLFAN's visits to the Tokyo Parks are frequently regrettably short (a matter of two or three hours in some cases); that he sometimes doesn't even entertain requests to meet people there for that reason; that he did agree to meet this person even though he had a full agenda for this short visit; that he took care to explain his constraints to this person ahead of time; that when the person didn't show, TDLFAN did all he could to contact him; that he waited longer than five minutes. It's regrettable that there was an earthquake and the usually punctual train was late. It's regrettable that the two of them didn't have the ability to connect by cell phone once the LP'er arrived. I know that TDLFAN was distressed when the meeting didn't happen. I believe that it was gracious of him to agree to meet in the first place, and that he wouldn't have made the plan if he didn't intend to follow through. To suggest that he totally blew off an LP'er seems an overstatement to me. I also want to add my observations regarding the assertion that TDLFAN, the person, is exactly like TDLFAN, the sometimes-offensive internet poster. In my experience, that is not the case at all. For years, I have been among those who have confronted TDLFAN -- on LP and privately -- over posts he made that I found to be insensitive, rude, or stereotypical. Yet during that same time period I have never seen him ACT in accordance with those posts. In person, he treats individuals he meets non-judgementally, with interest, and with respect. He's posted harsh things about a number of groups of people and personal behaviors (I don't defend those posts), but in real life he doesn't discriminate like that. He has a number of friends or people he thinks highly of who, for example, drink, smoke, are significantly overweight (no offense, Witches), disagree with him about the relative merits of the Parks, etc. Maybe even Brits who have little taste in clothing (admittedly, I won't be able to confirm this one 'til I meet davewasbaloo -- no offense, Dave). I don't know that TDLFAN even cares how he's represented in this thread. But I thought that he and thread deserve an opposing point of view, at least for the sake of balance.
Originally Posted By Mr X Inspector, my issue was not with the fact that he blew off the meeting...stuff happens. It was with the hard time he gave that guy here afterwards when a simple "yes, it was too bad we didn't meet" would've been more than sufficient. It was very rude. I dared to tell him so. He took it from there.
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 Okay. I didn't follow the situation as it unfolded between the two of you afterwards. (To be honest, I avoided reading those posts.) I haven't made any judgements on that conflict.
Originally Posted By mele When I first started posting on LP I was a bit taken aback by TDLFAN's posts. But after awhile, I got to know him better and started to understand his style of posting and now I don't take everything so literally. I like him. I don't think I want to get on his bad side, however. ha ha
Originally Posted By blueharvest82 <<How about I tell you guys that Space Mountain's budget redo has received more $$$, and the timetable moved back, due to concern about competing with Harry Potter ... or that DVC is Jay Rasulo's top priority and coming to Lake Tahoe (and likely Spain) in the very near future ... or that Guest Relations at MK has been inundated by complaints due to scheduling weekend PP Parties (not the fun kind either!) but Phil Holmes and Erin Wallace don't care ... or that DL is about to have an E-Ticket greenlighted (no, not Star Tours 2.0, this is in addition to that) or ... wait a sec ... I'd rather not. This way you can all talk about me, I don't have to post and deal with people who can't discuss things rationally and the LP WDW Board can go back to those good old days of 13 posts in a day.>> As per usual, everything he says is the same information you can find out if you talk to someone from cast deployment. E-tickets, expansions, parks, closures, ect. The only reason I ever had a problem with spirit and TDL was because on my very first post, the both of them came out of nowhere like the spartan cheerleaders and attacked me. They told me I was wrong and they were right, they said my views were askew because they weren't the same as theirs, they said that I wasn't as big of a disney fan bacause I didn't have as many international park maps as them. They were the ring leading bullies and the reason a hand full of you are upset that they rae gone, is because you are not as good at bullying as they ewre, and you need them to look good. But once again, and I know this is still a little hard to grasp, so I will type slowly...It is still a theme parks for kids and adults alike, thats it! HAVE A MAGICAL EVEING!
