Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<How much of a "story" are you expecting in five minutes or less? >> Tower of Terror, Big Thunder Mountain, Space Mountain, Indiana Jones Adventure, Dinosaur, Expedition Everest. All rides under 5 minutes with terrific stories. And rides like Big Thunder and Space Mountain have the same amount of story as POTC and HM.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>> Tower of Terror, Big Thunder Mountain, Space Mountain, Indiana Jones Adventure, Dinosaur, Expedition Everest. All rides under 5 minutes with terrific stories. And rides like Big Thunder and Space Mountain have the same amount of story as POTC and HM.<<< What he said. But not agreed that BTMR = HM or POTC. There is a big difference if you are speeding though it or slowly heading through... Both are great, have wonderful stories, but HM has more depth and mood to it. Same with POTC.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<But not agreed that BTMR = HM or POTC. There is a big difference if you are speeding though it or slowly heading through... Both are great, have wonderful stories, but HM has more depth and mood to it. Same with POTC. >> Depth and mood do not equal story. And Big Thunder most definitely has both, anyway. It's just used in a different medium.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>Depth and mood do not equal story<<< Are you kidding? Those are the fundamentals of it! Nothing wring with SM or BTMR...they just don't compare to the level of HM...or SSE...or..POTC. But they are still grand, immersive attractions. It's just the nature of the presentation.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> But, the lines at Toy Story Mania can't be ignored. << Excellent point. It's not HM or POTC or BTMR, but it definetly packs the people in the queue. Plus it's a very fun entertaining attraction to boot. I give it 2 thumbs up.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Nothing wring with SM or BTMR...they just don't compare to the level of HM...or SSE...or..POTC.>> I disagree, especially about Big Thunder. It easily is on the level of HM and Pirates.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I disagree, especially about Big Thunder. It easily is on the level of HM and Pirates. << In my opinion BTMRR is one of the best themed underrated attractions at WDW.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>I disagree, especially about Big Thunder. It easily is on the level of HM and Pirates.<< I don't know. There is just something lacking when you speed past everything, rather than actually SEE it. And look at it.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I don't know. There is just something lacking when you speed past everything, rather than actually SEE it. And look at it. << It's kind of hard to be on a runaway mine train, and not speed by. Besides that's an incentive to keep riding to catch all the wonderful detail that is there.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<It's kind of hard to be on a runaway mine train, and not speed by. Besides that's an incentive to keep riding to catch all the wonderful detail that is there.>> Exactly.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Still, the level of detail and story doesn't feel the same when experienced in that sense.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Still, the level of detail and story doesn't feel the same when experienced in that sense. >> Maybe not to you. But that doesn't mean it isn't there.
Originally Posted By magnet BTMRR is themed extremely well and so is POTC. I don't think you can use one to measure the other. They are very different kinds of rides, but the level of detail is appropriately matched for the ride experience -- it's over the top in both cases.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Maybe not to you. But that doesn't mean it isn't there.<<< I think it's like this for a lot of people. How many people ride BTMR for the thrill, rather than the story. Then, compare that to HM? The entire ridership is based in the story of the HM. But both are great, as I have said.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I think it's like this for a lot of people. How many people ride BTMR for the thrill, rather than the story. << I'm saying this to you honestly EE. BTMR is a fun little coaster. Not very thrilling as far as I'm concerned. More on the very mild side. I ride it for the looks alone. Well that, and the fact I can drink a beer on it, and never spill a drop.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Then, compare that to HM? The entire ridership is based in the story of the HM.>> Meh, I don't think so. Especially considering there's no real, concrete story to the HM. People ride it because it's fun. I guarantee 9 out of 10 people wouldn't be able to pick out all the small little connections in the ride.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I'm saying this to you honestly EE. BTMR is a fun little coaster. Not very thrilling as far as I'm concerned. More on the very mild side. I ride it for the looks alone. Well that, and the fact I can drink a beer on it, and never spill a drop.<<< True, but it's labeled for the thrill, rather than the story. With the HM, you go for the experience, which IS the story, regardless that Hokie thinks that guests are dumb and don't get these things. ;-) People do notice things, and do think. Maybe not a lot, and maybe not like WE do, but they do appreciate some of the points that are obvious in HM.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper << which IS the story>> Except there is no real narrative in the HM.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer But there IS a story. One that is very immersive, and very detailed. We have established that.
