Originally Posted By dlkozy >>>"<<< Nope-not an In-n-Out-they only open stand alone buildings. >>> There is an In-N-Out in the Fisherman's Wharf area of SF that is not in a stand alone building. FYI."<<< Fishermans' Wharf is in an area where #1 land is EXPENSIVE and #2 new building there would be too expensive. In-n-Out likes to control as much as possible EVERY aspect of their company. Most if not all cluster buildings/and mall types not only charge rent but also a portion of the sales. Companies are also somewhat limited in what they are allowed to do/not do. In-n-Out's choice is to be in stand alone buildings with drive thru areas. And if you look at the new In-n-Outs that have opened in the last year-they are building exactly that. I have had 3 children work for InO-2 still do-one a manager.
Originally Posted By oc_dean I was rather disappointed the opted out of the large sea life aquarium idea .. that was in the original plan. Sorry .... Developers blew it. The decided imagination was not important ... and decided it was in Orange County's best interest to deliver, yet, another run of the mill out door Entertainment Mall! There already is: Irvine Spectrum The Block DtD Bella Terra and I would have thought a little use of creativity and imagination would have been in order .. for what is Anahiem's core entertainment district!
Originally Posted By dlkozy >>>"The Emporium was the Bay Area's version of Macy's..."<<< No-there were Macy's during the Emporium's era.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo "There already is: Irvine Spectrum The Block DtD Bella Terra" If you could only go to one (and you are on vacation), other than DtD, which one would you guys recommend?
Originally Posted By oc_dean Meanwhile .... one such entertainment mall developer HAS taken the concept to greater heights (much in the same way Walt took amusement parks to THEME park). He created The Grove, and is now building Americana at Brand in Glendale .. which is going to be SPECTACULAR! Rick Caruso <a href="http://www.uli.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Home&CONTENTID=64365&TEMPLATE=/CM/ContentDisplay.cfm" target="_blank">http://www.uli.org/AM/Template .cfm?Section=Home&CONTENTID=64365&TEMPLATE=/CM/ContentDisplay.cfm</a> >>An attorney-turned-developer, Rick Caruso has redefined the retail experience with a distinct flair and blatant disregard for conventional wisdom.<< A direction the developers to Garden Walk could have followed!
Originally Posted By oc_dean Dave ... I would recommend Irvine Spectrum. The archetexture is that out of the Morrocan pavilion in Epcot, it has an Imax theater .. and while not up to Disney standards .. a ferris wheel and carousel.
Originally Posted By Zwitek <<< I think that H&M is somewhat overrated. >>> Most fashion retailers are. Good price, quality is good. Not as disposable as say, Forever 21. The men's stuff perplexes me though. It's mostly slim fit. Drives me nuts. And I'm fairly slim.
Originally Posted By Zwitek I'll be interested to see what Mr. Caruso comes up with for Golden Gate Fields. Lots of space out there.
Originally Posted By jonvn Golden Gate Fields is getting closed, too? I thought that was just Bay Meadows.
Originally Posted By oc_dean While we are on the subject of what's in Orange and LA county in terms of Entertainment Malls ....... Just in case anyone is interested ... I compiled all Orange/LA County entertainment malls into one comprehensive list in "DL Trip Planning"- <a href="http://mb.laughingplace.com/MsgBoard-T-52741-P-6.asp" target="_blank">http://mb.laughingplace.com/Ms gBoard-T-52741-P-6.asp</a>
Originally Posted By oc_dean actually ... this link will bring you to page one - <a href="http://mb.laughingplace.com/MsgBoard-T-52741-P-1.asp" target="_blank">http://mb.laughingplace.com/Ms gBoard-T-52741-P-1.asp</a>
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo thanks oc_dean. I always thought you were a star, now I know for sure.
Originally Posted By mawnck AHEM. And where, on all these lists, is the recently opened District in Tustin?? All the usual suspect stores, restaurants and theaters, a Costco, a Target, what's gotta be the biggest dang Whole Foods Market ever (the Best Buy next to it is about half the size), and yes, kids, a brand spanking new In-N-Out opening any second now, if it hasn't already. All in your typical video-walled overly-fountained under-parking-lotted Southern California Outdoor Mall setting. Corner of Barranca and Jamboree, next to the blimp hangars (which are the one really unique feature of the place). <a href="http://www.thedistricttl.com/shop-dine-play/shop-dine-play.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.thedistricttl.com/s hop-dine-play/shop-dine-play.aspx</a> (Not that I really give a toot about the joint, it being basically a Tustin/Irvine Marketplace clone with really lousy traffic pattern planning, but I still hate to see my local team ignored.)
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt >>>"The Emporium was the Bay Area's version of Macy's..."<<< "No-there were Macy's during the Emporium's era." Yes, of course. I guess I stated that wrong. What I meant was that Emporium was San Francisco based department store chain. Macy's is New York based. Both carried similar merchandise. Thus, referring to The Emporium as the Bay Area's version of Macy's seemed a fitting way to describe the store.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "He created The Grove, and is now building Americana at Brand in Glendale .. which is going to be SPECTACULAR!" While The Grove has a great vibe, and the center hub area with the fountain are lovely, the whole thing leaves me cold. The retail options are extremely limited, and I always find myself more drawn to more gritty Farmers Market area than the rest of the place. Sure, it's pretty to look at, but like so much of LA there just isn't much substance. I reckon that AGW is going to be more of the same.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "I'll be interested to see what Mr. Caruso comes up with for Golden Gate Fields. Lots of space out there." You mean in Albany? Is he working on something there?
Originally Posted By ieguy From being a child of Southern California for the past twenty some odd years now, Garden Walk gives me the impression of any other mall here that has been built in the past decade or so... but I think it's a great addition to the resort district. I guess we are somewhat spoiled with all the great shopping here. Anyways, I have to agree that the food offerings are as basic as they come anymore. I was just talking to my girlfriend about how these over-priced (for what you get) "fancy" places seem to be taking over. Cheesecake Factory, PF Changs, Applebees, Chili's, Mimi's, Rainforest Cafe, etc... they are all about the same..... You pay for an "interesting" atmosphere, over priced and under portioned meals that often leave your tastebuds wanting more. These restaurants are slowly becoming the Denny's and CoCo's of the next generation. Sorry for my little rant, but I couldn't agree more with most of you.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Wow! I'm enjoying a lot of these statements. Pretty 'dead on!' As I've seen my native Orange County grow ... how of these "Lucilles, Mimi's, Claim Jumpers" can be crammed into a county making every city look the same ... everywhere you go! Fullerton, to Tustin, to Anahiem, to Cypress .. etc. It's all the same! Now .. call it nostalgia ... Seems Cliftons at the Lakewood Mall felt unique. They didn't have them in EVERY town USA. Even the one in downtown LA had a Polynesian theme to it. I'm sure many remember Belle Isles. Buena Park mall had something cool which I barely remember. On the north side called the Penney something or other. Ahhhh .. the childhood memories. Van De Kamps with the big windmill was cool. Now .. it's just a sea of Mimis, Lucilles, PF Changs, etc, etc, etc
