Originally Posted By DAR You know if you just ignore Ann Coulter, she'll eventually just go away. She's really insignificant these days.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Frankly, I think they should all shut the **** up.< I'll second that -- I have a hard time watching the news these days....just too many nut jobs - both sides - but too many people only criticize one side or the other. Very few actually give you the unspinned version of anything.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <"If all Coulter can do is make personal attacks, if that's all the ammo she's got, then asking her to stop making personal attacks is, in effect, asking her to stop speaking entirely." LOL. Good point.< and also a great idea.... we should make a list ala Mike and Mike in the morning on ESPN -- the "just shut up " list
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <What I still don't get is why she's singlng out edwards for her contempt. He's a second tier candidate who's not particularly threatening - at least any more so than any democratic candidate. Seems like some kind of vendetta. < well assuming she has a brain ( a ? to be sure ) and using conspiracy theories that political hacks put together all the time - maybe she feels when all is done and said maybe Edwards is more ' electable' than Hillary or Obama as far as being able to get more crossover votes ? just a guess -- I've still to pick where my vote is going across all the candidates - but Ann Coulter will not help me decide..
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom <<Very few actually give you the unspinned version of anything.>> And boy do we see the ripple effect here.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <The left only wants to discuss the ugly remarks from Coulter. It forbids discussion of the inflamatory, obscene marks of liberals ranging from Bill Mahar to Howard Dean (and everyone in between.) > Speaking of spin... The left "forbids" this discussion? Right. That's why Maher's comment was all over the news shows yesterday, why we're discussing it here, etc. etc. Persecution complex much?
Originally Posted By jonvn Edwards is more electable. But my guess as to why she's singling him out is because either she wants him, or he's turned her down.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Here, Ann tries to be glib and clever, and instead gets taken to school. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=susZ2ceEHwk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =susZ2ceEHwk</a>
Originally Posted By BeautysBeast Why does Ann Coulter get taken to school when every other media talking head has its say in tis own biased way?
Originally Posted By JohnS1 In case anybody is even the least bit interested in looking at both sides of this matter, here is Ann Coulter's response to the big flap resulting from people quoting her out of context and making a mountain out of a molehill, in my view. The following supports what I have always thought about Edwards - that he is a very strange, almost creepy individual about whom very few people have put all the collective facts together and seen him for what he is. From Ann Coulter's web site: "The Edwards campaign is apparently still running low on donations, so this week they went back to their top fundraiser: me. I doubled the ratings of the lowest-rated cable news show on Tuesday by agreeing to go on for a full hour to promote my new paperback version of "Godless" — a mistake I won't make again. As I was walking to the set, minutes before airtime, it was casually mentioned to me that Elizabeth Edwards, wife of Democratic presidential candidate, John Edwards, might call in. For the first time in recorded history, the show's host did not interrupt a guest, but let Elizabeth Edwards ramble on and on, allowing her to browbeat me for being mean to her husband. (This delicate flower is very sensitive to rough words, having hired the Edwards' campaign staffer who wrote this: "What if Mary had taken Plan B after the Lord filled her with his hot, white, sticky Holy Spirit"?) Say, did any TV host ever surprise Al Franken, Bill Maher or Arianna Huffington with a call by the wife of someone they've made nasty remarks about? How about a call to John Edwards from the wife of a doctor he bankrupted with his junk-science lawsuits? I think I may have tuned out at some point, so I can only speak to the first 45 minutes of Elizabeth Edwards' harangue, but it mostly consisted of utterly dishonest renditions of things I had said on my "Good Morning America" interview this week and a column I wrote four years ago. (You can't rush Edwards' "rapid response team"!) She claimed I had launched unprovoked attacks on the Edwards' dead son and called for a terrorist attack on her husband. These are bald-faced lies, and the mainstream media knows they are lies. Yet they were repeated ad nauseam on Wednesday by The Associated Press, the AOL pop-up window, CNN, NBC and — stunningly — the host of the lowest-rated cable show himself, who personally told me he knew the truth. So for those of you who haven't read any of my five best-selling books: Liberals are driven by Satan and lie constantly. Here is my full sentence on "Good Morning America," which the media deceptively truncated, referring to a joke I told about Edwards six months ago that made liberals cry: "But about the same time, you know, Bill Maher was not joking and saying he wished Dick Cheney had been killed in a terrorist attack — so I've learned my lesson: If I'm going to say anything about John Edwards in the future, I'll just wish he had been killed in a terrorist assassination plot." The usual nut Web sites posted a zillion denunciations of my appearance on "Good Morning America" immediately after I appeared Monday morning. But it didn't occur to any of them to simply lie about what I had said. No, it took them nearly 36 hours to concoct a version of that quote that included the Edwards part, but not the Maher part, or what English language speakers call: "the point." By tomorrow it will be: "Ann Coulter tried to kill John Edwards on 'Good Morning America'!" Judging by his fundraising efforts so far, I gather most of you don't know who John Edwards is — unless you're an overpriced hair dresser. He's the trial lawyer who pretended in court to channel the spirit of a handicapped fetus in front of illiterate jurors to scam tens of millions of dollars off of innocent doctors. According to The New York Times, Edwards told one jury: "She speaks to you through me ... And I have to tell you right now — I didn't plan to talk about this — right now I feel her. I feel her presence. She's inside me, and she's talking to you." Let me also quote from campaign consultant Bob Shrum's book "No Excuses": "(Kerry) was even queasier about Edwards after they met. Edwards had told Kerry he was going to share a story with him that he'd never told anyone else — that after his son Wade had been killed, he climbed onto the slab at the funeral home, laid there and hugged his body, and promised that he'd do all he could to make life better for people, to live up to Wade's ideals of service. Kerry was stunned, not moved, because, as he told me later, Edwards had recounted the same exact story to him, almost in the exact same words, a year or two before — and with the same preface, that he'd never shared the memory with anyone else. Kerry said he found it chilling, and he decided he couldn't pick Edwards unless he met with him again." Apparently every time Edwards began a story about his dead son with "I've never told anyone this before," everyone on the campaign could lip-sync the story with him. As a commentator, I bring facts like these to the attention of the American people in a lively way. Thus, for example, in a column about the Democratic candidates for president written in 2003, I pointed out that the Democrats refused to discuss the economy or the war, but had recently "discovered a surprise campaign issue: It turns out that several of them have had a death in the family." (The full column is available at www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/coulter112003.asp, www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=2428&keywords=the+party+of+ideas and www.townhall.com/columnists/AnnCoulter/2003/11/20/the_party_of_ideas.) Among several examples of Democrats talking about a death in the family on the campaign trail was this one: John Edwards injects his son's fatal car accident into his campaign by demanding that everyone notice how he refuses to inject his son's fatal car accident into his campaign. Edwards has talked about his son's death in a 1996 car accident on "Good Morning America," in dozens of profiles and in his new book. ("It was and is the most important fact of my life.") His 1998 Senate campaign ads featured film footage of Edwards at a learning lab he founded in honor of his son, titled "The Wade Edwards Learning Lab." He wears his son's Outward Bound pin on his suit lapel. He was going to wear it on his sleeve, until someone suggested that might be a little too "on the nose." If you want points for not using your son's death politically, don't you have to take down all those "Ask me about my son's death in a horrific car accident" bumper stickers? Edwards is like a politician who keeps announcing that he will not use his opponent's criminal record for partisan political advantage. Manifestly, I was not making fun of their son's death; I was making fun of John Edwards' incredibly creepy habit of invoking his son's tragic death to advance his political career — a practice so repellant, it even made John Kerry queasy. I'm a little tired of losers trying to raise campaign cash or TV ratings off of my coattails, particularly when they use their afflictions or bereavement schedules to try to silence the opposition. From now on, I'm attacking only serious presidential candidates, like Dennis Kucinich." Harsh? Yes. But, as usual, it seems she is being quoted out of context to blast her for observing things that the rest of us are too fearful to comment on.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Sorry, but there are no two sides to Ann Coulter. She's a bitchy, mean spirited hag whose long winded, whiney explanation above just confirms the fact she's a bitchy, mean spirited hag.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Come on John. I'm not quite sure why you give this woman so much credence based on her track record. She's been caught lying many times, as well as debasing the tone of the national debate in general. "So for those of you who haven't read any of my five best-selling books: Liberals are driven by Satan and lie constantly. " - is exactly the kind of simplistic, divisive drivel that sells books to the "choir" but coarsens and divides the rest of us. Let's not forget that this whole thing started when she called Edwards a "faggot." This was a). ugly, and b). inaccurate. Which is pretty much Ann Coulter in a nutshell.
Originally Posted By DAR The lesson as always. Those on the right should be vilified for offending people(rigtfully so). Those on the left should get a free pass (wrongly so)
Originally Posted By DAR The lesson as always. Those on the right should be vilified for offending people(rigtfully so). Those on the left should get a free pass (wrongly so)
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <The lesson as always. Those on the right should be vilified for offending people(rigtfully so). Those on the left should get a free pass (wrongly so)> Who here said that? (Hint: no one.)
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Originally Posted By DAR <<Who here said that? (Hint: no one.)>> Not here. I'm talking about the media in general save for a few outlets.
Originally Posted By Marko Polo How can we trust ANY of the posts by the original poster Passholder if he is going to only post a porttion of the conversation or situation? This person has zero credibility based on this practice. If you don't like Coulter, be honest in what she said, why she said it and what she meant. Otherwise you are a total loser.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "The original poster of this thread took what Ann Coulter said out of context and only quoted one line of her conversation. This gives a totally unfair picture of what Coulter was saying. Why did this person choose to do this? Hmmmm This is exactly what many on the left do on a daily basis as they tell us how " outraged " they are by something they are reporting. Being honest would help their credibility." Join Coulter in hell, beau.
Originally Posted By JohnS1 "Liberals are driven by Satan and lie constantly. " - is exactly the kind of simplistic, divisive drivel that sells books to the "choir" but coarsens and divides the rest of us." Has nobody here ever heard of satire and hyperbole? Do you honestly think she takes that seriously? Good grief.
