Originally Posted By DDMAN26 <<Huge Cubs fan ( I know you can relate) and I was on the Sammie bandwagon when he was going well-- but the corked bat / the I'm not on seroids etc... could care less about him now>> I currently like the Cubs position right now.
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 <<It wasn't the oral sex, Bill Clinton, it was the lying about it. It wasn't the gay affair, Ted Haggard, it was the lying. It wasn't the exotic woman, Mark Sanford, it was the lying. It wasn't the steroids, Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Lance Armstrong, Rafael Palmeiro, Mark McGuire, it was the lying. It wasn't the affair John Ensign, it was the lying.>> AAAAAAAAAAMen, Brother SPP!!! It IS all about the lying!!! Well, except maybe in the case of Ted Haggard, where there was a whole 'nother level of hypocracy goin' on. I absolutely don't care that BC got BJ in the White House. But I'm furious that he cost us so much money by (a) getting caught and (b) denying it. It's looking as though Wiener similarly lied about it when he thought he could pull it off. But now that his hired media-machine is advising him that there is actual evidence and that he needs to to cop the "I'm so sorry" stance, he's doing that. That is not the kind of integrity I want in my public officials.
Originally Posted By Disneytowers Love watching liberals trying to defend a pervert lyre. He he has don so much good, he is a good lying pervert lyre...... You people just don't know how silly you all look .
Originally Posted By dshyates I think what he did was amazingly stupid, but because what he did isn't illegal, I don't think he should resign or be forced out of office. BUT I would hope that he is never again elected to, or even runs for another public office. It's time for him to slink to the back of the room and keep a low profile until the end of his term and then go away.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "That is not the kind of integrity I want in my public officials." Exactly. I realize it's an uphill battle, but for me, the line has to be drawn somewhere. Once Clinton started lying, doing so gave the GOP the opening they wanted. He brought on the impeachment all by himself. After that, why anyone, much less a Congressman, would think they could lie their way out of something like this is insanity. It's not just poor judgment, it's judgment devoid of logic and reason. At least do the right thing and resign.
Originally Posted By dshyates Here is the reason that I don't think he should resign. What he did is not illegal, and the process of replacing him will be messy and costly to the taxpayers. Probably involving a special election and all. So since he didn't break any laws I think he should stay. Strip him of any power for the remainder of his term and then he should quietly move into the private sector.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Do people really think that politicians shouldn't lie? Are there circumstances where lying is acceptable? Do you think that most politicians lie or don't lie? Finally, on a scale from 1 to 10, with 1 being "who cares" and 10 being "You're fired!", where do you think that lying to the media about extramarital sexting falls?
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Yes, all politicians occasionally lie. But when you become a member of Congress a certain standard of behavior is expected. You just shouldn't get drunk in public, engage the services of prostitutes, or do ANYTHING embarrassing on the Internet where EVERYTHING eventually becomes public knowledge. If you are not even smart enough to realize those basic truths, are you really smart enough to hold office?
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance I want to say I don't care at all. But I just can't get over the carelessness and stupidity it would take to do something like that in his position. I'm not saying he's stupid, but he may have some serious issues if he can be that willy nilly with his....well, his willy nilly!
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt In almost all states hiring a prostitute is illegal. The guy tweeted a photo... tweeted... a... photo, lied about it, and then came clean. Big whoop.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "But I just can't get over the carelessness and stupidity it would take to do something like that in his position." He got caught, and he's not the first or the last one. These types of scandals will never be finished as long as there is imagination in the world.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance When you tweet something, can everyone see it or just who you want to see it?
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance "These types of scandals will never be finished as long as there is imagination in the world." lol Or you can take out the word "imagination" and replace it with "men"
Originally Posted By Sara Tonin "These types of scandals will never be finished as long as there is imagination in the world." It's so cool how that was half breaking news and half Walt quote...I have new respect for you Dr!
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Thanks Sara Tonin... lol... I just think the whole uproar over this is kind of silly.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<When you tweet something, can everyone see it or just who you want to see it?>> In theory, just those who you want to see it. But it is always out there and can be used against you if the person you sent it to sends it to someone else or decides to make what you tweeted public. Once it is out there, you have no control over where it eventually goes.
Originally Posted By gadzuux I reluctantly have to agree that the congressman needs to resign. If he wants to run for office again in 2012, I wish him luck. And I agree with SPP - it's the lies. Not just little white lies but an entire extensive media campaign that went on for almost a week and blanketed the cable nets - all of it a campaign to dodge and weave, deceive and - lie. That can't be easily shrugged off and waved away. And it didn't have to happen. If it were just the tweeted pics he probably could have survived. For me, in order to have a sex scandal, actual sex needs to occur - skin, organs, penetration - we all know what sex is - and isn't. And this isn't it.
Originally Posted By Disneytowers2 Just another democratic party pervert like bill Clinton, no big thing that's what liberals are like
