Originally Posted By Mr X ***but otherwise it's a lot of angry, smelly tourists trying to do everything and being obnoxious over it. If you're at MK and stand in one spot and can't come close to counting 100 smiles in half an hour something is wrong (an experiment I tried with an old friend on 7/4/99 at MK)*** See, this is where you and I differ. I'm just sadistic enough to ENJOY watching the angry mobs. I just get a kick out of it, can't really say why. My favorite is the angry Mom and Dad with the tired brat being told "do you have any idea how much we're spending on this!!??". I've seen it a lot, and every time I smile, look down at beautiful Little X and say "You're awesome. Love you so much! Having fun here in Adventureland?". And yes, you are correct that the only place I've been able to truly enjoy my "misery loves an audience" game has been in good old Orlando, FL. (I think part of my sadism stems from the fact that long ago I worked for the mouse in FL and somehow seeing the tourists at their worst sort of justifies the locals' collective contempt for them)
Originally Posted By mousermerf Try living in SoCal near DL - where the average resident is about as incoherent and "forgot to pack a brain." Which explains much of the AP phenomena here. I went from disdain for tourists in FL to disdain for the general population in SoCal.
Originally Posted By Hack2112 >>And yes, you are correct that the only place I've been able to truly enjoy my "misery loves an audience" game has been in good old Orlando, FL.<< I've done some people watching in WDW before, but I love doing it in the scarezones at HHN. Now that's a riot.
Originally Posted By bayrr326 <<I've done some people watching in WDW before, but I love doing it in the scarezones at HHN. Now that's a riot.>> Dude, that is like my favorite part of going to HHN or HOS. I even made a couple of videos of HHN. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps9fl-BksWE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...fl-BksWE</a> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cYakI3rIc8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...akI3rIc8</a>
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<See, this is where you and I differ. I'm just sadistic enough to ENJOY watching the angry mobs. I just get a kick out of it, can't really say why. My favorite is the angry Mom and Dad with the tired brat being told "do you have any idea how much we're spending on this!!??". I've seen it a lot, and every time I smile, look down at beautiful Little X and say "You're awesome. Love you so much! Having fun here in Adventureland?". And yes, you are correct that the only place I've been able to truly enjoy my "misery loves an audience" game has been in good old Orlando, FL. (I think part of my sadism stems from the fact that long ago I worked for the mouse in FL and somehow seeing the tourists at their worst sort of justifies the locals' collective contempt for them)>> I never said I didn't/couldn't enjoy watching the boorish behavior and meltdowns that are part and parcel of the 21st century WDW magical vacation. I'd just rather the more laidback fun vibes I experience in Anaheim, Paris and Hong Kong. Hey fanbois ... I sense a great sociology thesis with lots of travel!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I went from disdain for tourists in FL to disdain for the general population in SoCal.>> I went from my disdain of politicians of all stripes and lawyers and leaders of Wall Street and what counts as 'media' today and Disney execs and fanbois to just having a general disdain for people, sadly. It's much easier to expect the worst and be pleasantly surprised by all the great Spirits out there than to expect folks to be good and moral and honorable and wind up disappointed.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris "^^^ Interesting thought, and most likely correct seeing that the econ is in the crapper over there...But where isn't it? " Australia. We avoided recession, our economy is growing and we are the only developed nation to recently lift interest rates. Add to that the $50 BILLION Gorgon gas project recently signed with the Chinese and we are doing okay.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer ^^^ I'm moving. How expensive is college over there? Any plans for Disneyland Sydney? Heh.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris Queensland was going to get one a few years back but apparently the deal fell through. I am actually glad it never happened - we don't have the population to support it(or rather, we WILL once the left wing, bleeding heart, do-gooders have their way and we are inundated with millions of illegal boat people who come here for the two years free rent housing, guaranteed dole benefits for two years, English language training(or not - HEY, keep your own language and add to our wonderful culutural diversity - rolls eyes), free re-training to get a job and a spot at the local Australia Post where you can be seen any day of the week with handfuls of fifties, wiring them back home to Zimbabwe, Indonesia and Iraq.......but I digress)and stupid dumb Australians wouldn't actually appreciate a Disneyland anyway.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros "...but I digress)and stupid dumb Australians wouldn't actually appreciate a Disneyland anyway." Well, that sure is a relief. I heard they were thinking about building you guys one, but then when they saw the astounding success of HKDL, they decided that the Chinese would appreciate a second park/resort much more than you guys would like a first one. That's good to hear that you guys agree with their sentiments! : )
Originally Posted By Bob Paris A DL here in Australia would not work, so I am glad it was never built. It's(lack of)success would probably make HKDL seem like the DLR during a Christmas week.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 <<It's much easier to expect the worst and be pleasantly surprised by all the great Spirits out there than to expect folks to be good and moral and honorable and wind up disappointed.>> I can sorta agree with your thinking, but at the same time, people have a tendancy to live down to your expectations. Sad.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 ^^That's a chicken and egg debate. I used to be a very optimistic Spirit. Reality changed that.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Honestly, I think that you can be realistically optimistic, if that makes sense. All depends on what's possible, and probable. For Disney...There's a LOT of things that can go to the positive. We just have a group of idiots fouling it up.
Originally Posted By Spyderman Well according to one of my favorite posters on 'that other site'. Epcot will be getting a major new addition in 2010 called "the sum of all thrills"....yes you read that correclty *facepalm*
Originally Posted By Spyderman but being serious, I hope Disney doesn't think fantasyland upgrades and ST 2 will be "good enough". They better have some more announcements (im talking real rides not bs like parades and exhibits) for the other parks (especially epcot) that will be opening in 2011/12/13.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> It's much easier to expect the worst and be pleasantly surprised by all the great Spirits out there than to expect folks to be good and moral and honorable and wind up disappointed. << I always expect to see the good in people. At least 90% of the time that's what I get.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>but being serious, I hope Disney doesn't think fantasyland upgrades and ST 2 will be "good enough". They better have some more announcements (im talking real rides not bs like parades and exhibits) for the other parks (especially epcot) that will be opening in 2011/12/13. <<< Disney has a few things up their sleeve...They didn't want to blow EVERYTHING at D23.