Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <So are you ok with saying that Bush only beat Kerry cause he spent more money?> That wouldn't be true. I'm sure it was a factor, however.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <That doesn't negate the fact that the GOP had high hopes for NJ.> No, it doesn't. It does indicate that the Democrats had hopes of their own.
Originally Posted By DlandDug While money alone isn't the deciding factor, it sure makes a big difference. Proof that you really, truly cannot buy an election: Michael Huffington. But we did end up with (God help us all) Ariana.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <<That doesn't negate the fact that the GOP had high hopes for NJ.>> <No, it doesn't. > Thank you. <It does indicate that the Democrats had hopes of their own.> Well, duh. But I was responding to the idea that the GOP was okay with losing NJ because it already had a Democrat governor. On the contrary, they pushed hard for it.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <But I was responding to the idea that the GOP was okay with losing NJ because it already had a Democrat governor.> So you were responding to an idea that nobody expressed.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder "So you were responding to an idea that nobody expressed." Not so fast, bunkie. You expressed it in post 11.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh No I didn't. I never said that the recent elections weren't a disappointment to the GOP. They clearly were. But at the same time, they weren't a major Democrat victory, because all they did was keep the Democrats where they were.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder Doug said it again in post 15 and Dug said it in post 21. Got that straight?
Originally Posted By cmpaley Oh, to be sure, November 8, 2005, was a dark day for Republicans. In California. Bwaahahahahahahahahahaha! Sorry, I've been trying hard not to gloat. Sometimes, it just happens. :-D
Originally Posted By DlandDug Actually, Chris, the statewide GOP called for four items in the special election to pass, and four to be defeated. So the party's average was .500. What they ended up with was not so much a dark day, as a glass-half-full or glass-half-empty proposition.
Originally Posted By cmpaley What were they? I thought it was like this: 73 GOP YES 74 GOP YES 75 GOP YES 76 GOP YES 77 GOP YES 78 GOP YES 79 GOP NO 80 GOP NO Do you have a link to the website of THE PARTY that gives their orders to the faithful, I mean endorsements?
Originally Posted By DlandDug Chris-- my bad. I mixed the Orange County measures (B, C, D and E) in. The GOP called for the defeat of all-- which did, indeed all fail. So if one was really, really trying to get any silver lining out of this mess, the statewide GOP got 2 out of 8, or .250. I guess we'll have to settle for a glass 1/4 full! (P.S. They are, indeed, endorsements. Unlike the Unions, the GOP cannot "assess" members for political fights, regardless of how an individual feels about it.)
Originally Posted By cmpaley Well, I'll tell you. I'm registered Republican right now and I'd love to change. Unfortunately, I'm a bit scared to do so because of who is in absolute control of our country right now. I want to live in fear of the "knock at the door."
