AP: Group Wants to Show Disney Gay Video

Originally Posted By broadwaybunny

Ugh. This topic just seems to repeat itself every year.

My partner and I were invited to attend the celebration this year, but we have declined. Frankly, there is no reason for us to temp to sunstroke fates during July.

However, I do like the celebration for one reason - it is heartening to be in the middle of so many people that share the same lifestyle.

There will always be some bad apples that spoil the barrel, and I do not condone their behavior. It is really sad, because that is such a visible part of the community, yet does not reflect us as a whole. Any more so that when I have taken vacations where church groups have gathered, and they take off on their own druken tirades.

Point is, this behavior does not reflect the whole of any one group, be it straight or gay.

That being said, I'll get off my own soapbox.

 

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Originally Posted By bluebayou

Makes me want to take my girlfriend with me everywhere... just to upset the people behind this stupid organization.

 

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Originally Posted By clatertrap

And when DL had Videopolis (1980's?)
only male female couples were allowed on the dance floor. No single dancers, and no same sex couples. That wasn't that long ago, folks!

 

Originally Posted By rannxerox

Well, here is my $0.02 on the topic...

1. Love the sinner, not the sin. If you believe everything on billboards, you would think that Christ was a gay, vegetarian, anti-sword (gun), weed-smoking hippy. Jesus may love you but not your acts. And yes, Jesus took the place of the scarified lamb and your communion with God is through him, but his father’s laws of the Old Testament still stand (if your Christian).

2. There is too much “in your face” everything. It does not matter if it is gays, Christian, gun, anti-gun, environment, big business, etc. I have religious believes but those believes should be expressed in my life, not a bumper sticker or T-shirt.

3. Each group has a right to protest. I supported that right when I served in the military. My thought has always been; speck with your money. I disagreed with the way WDW handled the cutbacks and customer service issues last year so I did not plan a WDW vacation this year and let them know about it. I have said a lot negative things about Eisner but one thing for sure with him, it is not about politics, it is always about money. He would love to see this whole thing go away because it is a thorn in his side. I would avoid the parks on those weekends but I also agree with the other person about certain South American groups and I would try and avoid them if I could also.

4. What is wrong with being abnormal? Our kids are home-schooled, they do not watch TV or play video games, and they love to read books. They are abnormal to most kids in the US and I think that it is just great. Hell, I’m abnormal. I don’t want to be normal. Why do gays want what they are doing seen to be normal? If 95% of people are in strait life styles and you are gay, guess what, you are abnormal. Live with it, hell, enjoy it.

Overall, live and let live. I do not think that children should be exposed to the gay life style in school but I have a lot of problems with the public schools and so I choose not to send my kids to them. I avoid New Orleans during Fat Tuesday just like I would avoid WDW during gay week, but I will not stop people from any of their sins as long as no one is hurt.

 

Originally Posted By MKristen

Oh my goodness, UtahJosh! My thoughts exactly! There IS someone who agrees with me! lol.

~Kristen~

 

Originally Posted By MKristen

brerpj, very uncalled for!

~Kristen~

 

Originally Posted By SJHYM

I had originally decided not to post here but after reading thru all this I changed my mind.

There are two issues here as I see it. The first is one is about beliefs and the second about freedom. Some (emphasis on "some") believe that being gay is sinful and wrong, while gay men and women believe that there is no choice in who they are, that this was how they created. Which one is correct? I dont know, I am not that smart. What I do know is that it is hard to move someone off their strongly held beliefs.

The second and even harder part is that as Americans we have certain freedoms that are great but can be troublesome at times. Should gay people be able to love each other, go to Disney,and have their freedoms protected? YES. But on the other side Christians have the freedom to believe what they do and protest about it. Gay men and women protested to be recognized for who they are and what they believe. Christian men and woman have the right to do the same.

Freedom is a slippery slope. It is easy to say -THOSE people should shut up, mind their own business, not protest, BUT whenever one group is silenced when we disagree with their position, WE all run the risk of being silenced

 

Originally Posted By kennect

OK, This is what I don't understand here and apparently no one is interested...This thread was based on a Christian group and their attempt to show a video tape to stockholders of the Disney company...The majority of this thread has gone in a different direction by discussing religous beliefs, etc...Can someone around here at least try to get back on topic and realize that this group is completely ignorant to what their socalled purpose is...Their info is incorrect and they come across as nothing more than some group that has some really weird agenda considering their lack of knowledge towards Disney and this event...What I find really interesting is the fact that a group of gay people can truly organize an idea and make it happen by meeting up in FL. for a couple of days a year...The Christian groups that have a problem with this should really fear something else...One of these days our gay society is going to organize something other than a get together in a particular place...They are going organize themselves in such a way, when it happens, it will blow everyone away...I think the FL. event is simply a fun thing to do but it shows the ability of the gay public in this world has the ability to assemble in mass, even though this is considered a fun event...I hate to think of the day when they assemble in these same numbers for something that isn't fun and entertaining...I doubt that will happen anything time soon since I belong to the community and know the mindset...Most gay people I know simply want to live their lives as respectable citizens and be treated as such...This whole thing has been so blown out of proportion it is funny...This thread has had umpteen responses based on a comment made by an orginization that is apparently screwed up...But yet, the responses really don't relate to that orginization's cause here...They are a bunch of crackpots...Insane in their beliefs that I don't believe would be considered of value by most Christians(or stockholders)...Or at least I hope not...This topic really needs to die a quick death here...I say that based on what I read on their webpage...The type of behaviour that goes on at Disney that weekend is nothing more than I could see anyday of the week where I live...It is just another example of Disney being an easy target to attack...They are big, they are in our face everyday so why not go after them for whatever your soapbox issues might be....So many others have tried to use Disney for various reasons...Of course this years event will be like last years.. No big deal..Another weekend in Walt's perfect world...A world he initially created back in the fifties that seem to really have no agenda other than for everyone to come and have a good time...Apparently the idea did go over and that is the reason we all, regardless of what we are, go...Where else in the world can one go and spend a day in a dreamlike place? We've been doing it now for about fifty years...All of my visits have been magical therefore it is sad for someone to try to drag in politics, etc. into it...Hey, for fifty dollars I simply want to have a good time...And I always do....

 

Originally Posted By Weezy

Disney had no control over it, it was like a family gathering. So a bunch of people with similarities planned to go on the same day. So what? Is it much different than something along the lines of Mouse Adventure?

 

Originally Posted By DC7800

MKristen wrote:

>>Oh my goodness, UtahJosh! My thoughts exactly! There IS someone who agrees with me! lol.

~Kristen~ <<

Yes Kristen, and I agree as well. I don't want to be drawn into this whole nasty debate, but by saying nothing, people automatically assume you have no problem with the topic being discussed. As a Christian, I may not approve of the lifestyles of some persons (NOT just homosexuals either). That DOES NOT mean I have a problem with the individual - just the opposite, actually - my disapproval is only over their actions. Actually, I have the upmost respect for anyone here who stands up for what they believe in - particularly an unpopular stance - and I expect the same respect from each of you.

I could say a lot more (and would probably like to), but I don't want my comments to be misunderstood, and anger or offend anyone on either side of this debate. Nothing I say here should upset anyone - we may disagree, but there's not a thing wrong with different opinions (respectfully presented). Besides, when we get back to discussing Disney, I'd like to exchange ideas and viewpoints with everyone here - those with whom I most vehemently disagree on this topic may well share my opinions on Disney.

 

Originally Posted By dizneboy18

disney does support Christian events like the Night of Joy which are advertised. Under Disney rules you cannot be kicked out of a park unless you are violating the park or other guests. Could you imagine the lawsuits that would follow if a certain group of people were not let in. Its just people that organize an activity and go on a certain day. Just because its at Disney people automatically presume that the company sponors it and its not true. Equal treatment goes to everyone

 

Originally Posted By utahjosh

Thanks to everyone who put thought into their posts. (and boooo to anyone who spewed forth hatred and generalizations in thier posts)

Disney isn't going to do ANYTHING about "Gay Days" unless rules or laws are broken -- and they shouldn't. Plus, we ALL should know by now that this isn't organized or sponsered by Disney. Anyway, Disney is a private corporation and can celebrate whatever they choose, be in Christmas, Easter, or Hannukkah.

Also, in any group there are the extremists. Islam has the Taliban & co., Christians have many in the history books.

Thanks again to those who agree with me, and to those who don't for respecting me.

 

Originally Posted By wahooskipper

Grad Nights are 1,000 times more of a problem for Disney then are Gay Days. I still say that is the best time to go to the park.

 

Originally Posted By Doobie

This topic has gone from a discussion of Gay Day to a discussion of whether or not religion and homesexuality is right or wrong and, even worse, a discussion of which does the greater harm to the world. Obviously, not something that belongs in a WDW section and frankly two subjects I don't want debated (talked about - ok, debated -no) on LP at all. So I'm doing to close this topic.

Doobie.