Originally Posted By smiley_face2 Well I was releived to read the other reactions here. As I was looking at the pics, I was thinking "so this is where all the money went and why DCA is the way it is" Then was feeling guilty for thinking anything bad about Disney! I can't believe how beautiful it looks, wow! So how much is a trip there worth? anyone know what kind of cost is involved? airfares, hotels, park prices?
Originally Posted By Reedy Creek Dude!!! The WDC DID NOT pay for TDS!!! TDS immersive theming and pristine and immaculate condition is NOT the reason(excuse?)for the lacklustre kiddy fun fair(EDF)that currently occupies the old parking lot in Anaheim!!!! NO!!!!!!!!! A thousand times NO!!!!!!!!!! TDS has been funded by the Oriental Land Company. A corporation that ACTUALLY cares about giving guests a quality experience.
Originally Posted By disneywatcher >> Captain Red Bows: The gang in California are licking their chops" I wonder what the DisCo's top brass thought of DCA on opening day and what they think about it weeks later, and how this will compare with their reactions to DisneySea, which I assume they'll be visiting some time later this year. From what I've read, DCA was greatly influenced by Michael Eisner, whereas DisneySea -- at least to a greater degree -- appears to have been left to the imagination and creativity of the Imagineers. Maybe if Eisner stuck to strictly financial matters and left creative issues to others, things would be different. But to be fair, the Imagineers have Epcot's Journey Into Your Imagination as their own albatross, but overall I think it would be better if the DisCo's top guy left purely creative matters to the creative types.
Originally Posted By pheneix <the Imagineers have Epcot's Journey Into Your Imagination as their own albatross> Weren't all the Imagineers responsable for that fired? <DCA was greatly influenced by Michael Eisner> So was Go.com. And look at what happened to it.
Originally Posted By Futurist Didn't our moms and dads teach us ... "You get what you pay for!" "You pay less...you get less." "You pay more....you get more." And smiley_face2, As Reedy Creek said... 'Dude,' can we talk??? Back in 1976/77 the Walt Disney company presented an option to a Japanese company to BUY a "Disneyland" type park from the Disney company. (The Oriental Land Company.) The OLC put up the money, and Disney provided the name, and the services to build it. (Disney acted as contractors, in a way.) It is in the contracts that the Oriental Land Company OWNS the Tokyo Disneyland Resort. They have creative control. Actually, they have control of all it...PERIOD! The Burbank based company receives a percentage of merchandise and food sales, and royalties..which I believe come out to 10%. While the OLC has REIGNING control over what they want to do with THEIR park....because they paid for it! I don't believe Disney Co. in Burbank have any right to seize control anytime soon...and I know it's just eating them up, because it is so successful making the OLC a ton of money! To them, it must be a mistake they wish they did differently, or then, why was Disneyland Paris a project done differently where they have the majority ownership & control?! While Eisner, Pressler and the rest of their cronies keep things lean here in the US, ....way over in a little country called Japan, the Oriental Land company..like Walt....beleive that "Quality will out!"...and continue to this day to razzle dazzle the public with great Attractions like the Winnie The Pooh Attraction with it's trackless, state-of-the-art system (3 hour waits)....and in just roughly 5 months, a new park that will knock the socks off MANY people, and are going to have us, here in the states, weeping!!!!!
Originally Posted By JoeInJpn OLC is in charge of operation and promotion of TDR. Walt Disney Attractions Japan, Co. Ltd. is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Walt Disney Company that oversees and controls the usage of all Disney intellectual property from the name of the park itself down to the cast member manuals. JoeInJpn <a href="http://www.jtcent.com" target="_blank">http://www.jtcent.com</a>
Originally Posted By Britain To answer a question at the beginning of the thread, Both TDS's MiraCosta Hotel and Universal's Portofino Hotel are based in part on Portofino Bay in the Italian Riviera. MiraCosta has a bit of Florence (The Duomo and Ponte Vecchio Bridge) and Venice thrown in, whereas Portofino Hotel at Universal is more of a carbon copy of the little italian village.
Originally Posted By Futurist Thank you Joelnjpn. My information is sketchy. It's been a few years! ... So feel free to correct any mistake I might have said. Thanks.
Originally Posted By Marc -DL Traveler Actually, your info is so messed up that I don't know where to begin... All I'll say right now is that one great man approached Disney and started the entire ball rolling - In 1961. He's the subject of my next column. Marc
Originally Posted By Marc -DL Traveler Actually, your info is so messed up that I don't know where to begin... All I'll say right now is that one great man approached Disney and started the entire ball rolling - In 1961. He's the subject of my next column. Marc
Originally Posted By Marc -DL Traveler Actually, your info is so messed up that I don't know where to begin... All I'll say right now is that one great man approached Disney and started the entire ball rolling - In 1961. He's the subject of my next column. Marc
Originally Posted By Marc -DL Traveler Sorry for coming off so harsh there, Futurist. I've just had my fill of bad TDL info lately. Marc
Originally Posted By Marc -DL Traveler Sorry for coming off so harsh there, Futurist. I've just had my fill of bad TDL info lately. Marc And I just posted this, but instead it posted my first message again. What's with that??
Originally Posted By Reedy Creek Hey Marc, I've heard of repition for emphasis but this is getting beyond a joke!!! ; ) And PLEASE hurry up with that column!!! Yours is the ONLY reason I come here. Sorry but reports on pin trading and such don't do it for me. TDS-WHO'S YOUR DADDY!!!!
Originally Posted By Futurist Ouch! Well, we know one thing for sure, Disney in Burbank has no say-so in what's built, since it's OLC's money. When does that column come?
Originally Posted By Marc -DL Traveler Futurist wrote: "Ouch!" Really, I do apologize, Futurist. Your facts were messed up, but they're weren't *that* messed up. and: "Well, we know one thing for sure, Disney in Burbank has no say-so in what's built, since it's OLC's money." Very true. My column normally runs on the first Monday of each month. There will definitely be on on that date, but you never know what might happen between now and then. Marc
Originally Posted By TDL Yes, we 'locals' are - and know it too! (no darts please!). The throngs are champing at the bit for September to come along. I already have my day off work organized!
