Originally Posted By Goofyernmost >>>I wouldn't know an AR-15 if it shot me in the ass, but I would assume that an accident involving one would not be so hilarious.<<< That's easy to tell, because your ass would be missing.
Originally Posted By ecdc It occurs to me, for a bunch of people determined to tell us how responsible and law-abiding they are, it does not take much to turn a lot of gun owners into mouth foaming screamers who suddenly are all about liberty tree watering and prying from cold, dead hands.
Originally Posted By Donny I have two AR-15's ,Do I need them ? No Do I think banning them will have even a 1% decline in gun murders ? No
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Originally Posted By Dabob2 The thing is, even if the assault weapons ban is reinstated, current guns are grandfathered in. NO ONE is talking about taking guns away. Despite this, on Fox News they talked about the issue with the headline graphic constantly in the background "Coming For Your Guns." You can see it, among other places, on the brilliant Jon Stewart piece from last night. Flat out, Fox is telling their viewers "they're coming for your guns!!!" when no one in Washington has even so much as proposed such a thing. And here's something else I don't think can be emphasized enough: if the assault weapons ban we had from 1994 - 2004 had stayed in effect (which even Bush favored, by the way), Nancy Lanza would not have had that weapon that killed those 20 kids. She bought it in 2010. It would not have been in her local store, available to her, along with the less lethal guns she also bought. So that's 26 deaths right there that keeping the assault weapons ban would have prevented. We need to reinstate it.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney >>>I have two AR-15's ,Do I need them ? No<<< Then why do you have them?
Originally Posted By DyGDisney >>>Do I think banning them will have even a 1% decline in gun murders ? No<<< You are wrong and post 45 proves it. Do you have any rational response to post 45?
Originally Posted By ecdc >>So that's 26 deaths right there that keeping the assault weapons ban would have prevented. We need to reinstate it.<< So Donny, if those 26 deaths could have been prevented, would you be willing to give up your AR-15s? It's a simple question....
Originally Posted By DyGDisney Legit question for Donny --- Does the Mormon church leaves out all of Christ's teaching about turn the other cheek, those who live by the sword die by the sword, love your enemies, etc?Christ was the ultimate pacifist -- shouldn't "Christians" be as well?
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Let me make the slightest of moves over to Donny's side. So you ban the AR-15 and it prevents the death of another 26 people at one time. But if those deaths are spread throughout the country and it's through a variety of guns, is the outrage as strong or is it because someone walked into a movie theater, temple and school last year. Everyone knows what are the dangerous neighborhoods in their city. If a shooting happens there is there as much outrage? Probably not because that's what you expect to happen there.
Originally Posted By ecdc The LDS Church has morphed from what was once a very passive faith in the twentieth century, to a much more Republicanesque type of faith. Their last church leader endorsed the war in Iraq, for example. And while you'll hear all sorts of talks by the LDS leadership on the evils of pornography, movies, etc., you'll never, ever hear a denunciation of torture or war, except perhaps in the vaguest of terms.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>It's a simple question....<< >>Legit question for Donny<< You guys are making Baby Jesus cry. Also me.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>You guys are making Baby Jesus cry.<< Don't care cause he's not real. >>Also me.<< Ok, I'll stop
Originally Posted By DyGDisney Believe me, I am bothered by the move to a " Republicanesque" type of faith in Christianity in general, I am just wondering how Donny, as a Mormon, defends this. Heck, I wonder how anyone of a true Christian faith can defend it. Donny said he will answer legit questions; I have asked him 2 and ecdc asked him one. Heck, I wish I could get that much attention!!
Originally Posted By mawnck >>Donny said he will answer legit questions<< HE WON'T!!! HE WON'T!!!!! YAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!! W394TH(*&TUYG*&Y*HOUIYGOIJP&T(*&GITYF iUYFIUYGHPIUHH -0ew48tu9erigge4poit4e90u oiryughlkIUHOIH[OEIRJPOIJMPOVZ SEGBEGRIHIUAERGNUEHNIOSHGPEIRUGEHPROHGAERIOJ
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>Believe me, I am bothered by the move to a " Republicanesque" type of faith in Christianity in general<< if you're talking about the middle east wars, its mostly Protestant Fundies who support that stuff. Mainline Protestant churches and the RCC were against invading the middle east.
Originally Posted By fkurucz **>>>I have two AR-15's ,Do I need them ? No<<< Then why do you have them?** Because "real men" have AR-15's? <a href="http://www.ammoland.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/bushmaster-man-card-banner.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.ammoland.com/wp-con...nner.jpg</a>
Originally Posted By Donny being Christian does not mean you allow people to take your life or your family.
