Originally Posted By Liberty Belle >>You are right - some people do disown their kids for being gay. But a lot more don't and I would guess a great number of those that still love their kids are Christian too.<< Exactly, and that's often overlooked. Religion doesn't cause bigotry - bigotry can happen anywhere. I have two gay friends - one female, one male. The female is Catholic and the male is Anglican, and both are extremely tight with their families. I also know a gay male whose family has no religion, and he hasn't told them that he's gay because he's too afraid of their reaction. So, it doesn't all come down to religion. On the matter of homeschooling, although it's not something I would do myself, I do believe that most parents wouldn't choose to do it and then not teach their kids what they're supposed to. I assume parents who homeschool do it because they believe that's the best thing for their kids. I do think it can be a problem if the kids aren't socialising with their peers, but I think most parents who homeschool make sure their children get enough social interaction. I don't think it's probably the best idea for 17 kids of different age groups, but I guess if the older kids had come out the worst for it, they wouldn't have continued homeschooling the younger ones.
Originally Posted By DVC_dad Please pardon me being offensive, I don't mean to be, but actually yes, I believe exactly that. There are good and bad schools, there are good and bad churches, there are good and bad drugs on the market, and likewise there are good and bad homeschoolers. I am not against homeschooling in general, but what gets to me is that in MOST (maybe not all) cases bad homeschooling is preventable.
Originally Posted By Liberty Belle >>Please pardon me being offensive, I don't mean to be, but actually yes, I believe exactly that<< Do you mean you believe if it hadn't worked for the older ones they would have continued for the younger ones? Sorry, I'm just not sure which part of my post you're referring to.
Originally Posted By imadisneygal I think they would continue it despite it not working. I read on this thread, and have not seen for myself, that the oldest son's webpage is full of misspellings and grammatical errors. And apparently we're not talking a mistyped word here or there, which will happen to anyone. Kids don't have to be geniuses but just what are they learning if they can't even type basic English? I don't think they're basing their homeschooling decision on whether it's working for their kids and giving them an edge in the real world. Memos with misspellings don't gerner much respect. And what else did they miss if the basics aren't there?
Originally Posted By RoadTrip >>Memos with misspellings don't gerner much respect. And what else did they miss if the basics aren't there?>> How ironic you would have a misspelling in that sentence. As we have seen many times on these boards, very intelligent people make spelling and grammar errors. It has nothing to do with quality of education. Primarily it is an indication of how much effort the writer put into proof-reading his/her work.
Originally Posted By jonvn The posts on here are typed in with one chance, and no edit feature. A web page sits there over a period of weeks and months. That's quite a different thing.
Originally Posted By imadisneygal I knew I'd make a type in there somewhere! That's pretty funny. I think the difference is that I specifically stated that it's not just one or two typos. It's many, many misspellings and grammatical errors. As I typed, "we're not talking a mistyped word here or there, which will happen to anyone." Gerner / Garner. Tomato / Tomahto.... And yes, a webpage is able to be edited and proofed. I generally type messages pretty quickly and should take more time to proofread them!
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<I read on this thread, and have not seen for myself, that the oldest son's webpage is full of misspellings and grammatical errors.>> I've been unable to find the son's website. Could whoever made the initial post about this please give a link? Thanks
Originally Posted By jonvn "I knew I'd make a type in there somewhere!" You mean typO? Ha...it's impossible...
Originally Posted By LVBelle Here's Josh's website. <a href="http://www.strategicpolitical.com/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.strategicpolitical. com/index.html</a> I briefly scanned it and didn't notice any typos right away but some of the grammar is off...
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan The grammar is a mess. That consultant needs to hire a consultant. ; )
Originally Posted By jonvn "The nation they founded was centered on their desire to serve God & raise families; and have the freedom to do so." This sentence alone shows, for more than just one reason, why home schooling is not a good idea. I like the use of the semicolon, though. Almost no one knows how to use it properly and when it is used at all, it looks really impressive; even when it is used incorrectly, as it is here.
Originally Posted By Liberty Belle >>Kids don't have to be geniuses but just what are they learning if they can't even type basic English? I don't think they're basing their homeschooling decision on whether it's working for their kids and giving them an edge in the real world. Memos with misspellings don't gerner much respect. And what else did they miss if the basics aren't there?<< My friend is one of the smartest people I know - she got straight A+s at school, graduated as one of the top in the class, and went on to do a Psychology degree and a masters degree graduating with Honours. She's also one of the worst spellers I know. Now, English was always my forte at school, so I'm definitely not dissing the power of the English language, but I can see from her example that you don't have to necessarily be the world's best speller to achieve well at school and beyond. She just used spellcheck in her assignments, always got top marks and now she's out there in the world helping people. So, you can't judge QUITE everything by spelling (although no one who knows me would be likely to believe that I'M actually saying that!!) As for the web site (although the content itself is a little out there for me) I didn't think the grammatical errors were THAT bad - assuming I'm only looking at the home page, I apologise if I missed something but everything else I clicked on was 'under construction'. It's not brilliant, but I don't know that it's *particularly* worse than what a lot of boys of that age might write. I know my teenaged nephew can hardly string two sentences together (verbal or written!) and he's gone to 'normal' schools all his life.
Originally Posted By wendebird jonvn, do you think what he wrote/believed would be any different if he went to public school? He'd still have the same parents, he'd still go to the same church, etc.
Originally Posted By Liberty Belle Exactly, Wendebird. PLUS I did say the content was a little out there for me, but we were talking about the writing style.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan I'm not going to go line by line through his webpage to point out the grammatical errors, they're there for anyone to see. The content and opinion are one thing. The idea that he is offering his 'strategic' consulting services and the page is filled with grammatical errors is something he'd likely be embarassed by – if he knew the difference. I know many people in hiring positions that will simply chuck a resume if it has even a single typo in it. The theory is that the resume ought to be representative of their best, most careful work. All that said, I don't know if those grammatical errors are a product of his homeschooling or simply that of an under-construction site. And either way, it's hardly a way to judge all of homeschooling vs. public education.
Originally Posted By jonvn "do you think what he wrote/believed would be any different if he went to public school?" Probably not, no. But what k2m says ir pretty much right on the mark.
