Originally Posted By YourPalEd <<<It's more creepy, with a small dose of mystery and fun.>>> So, you are saying life is too easy, so let people stir stuff up by breakiing things. I prefer people, who build things.
Originally Posted By Shooba I love how thr right-wing nuts on here are practically demanding that anyone who falsely accused Rove apologize and acknowldge their error. Puh-leeze. How many people admitted they were wrong after insisting that Terri Schiavo was capable of recovery and that her husband murdered her? The autopsy confirmed her brain was mush and no charges were laid. Where were the "Gee, I was wrong" posts on that one? Of course, these are the same people who still claim that Saddam was an imminent threat to the USA ("We found a 20-year old can of Raid in his kitchen! We *had* to stop him!") Of course, as has been pointed out, it appears that no one actually declared Rove to be guilty. Anyone who thought Rove was guilty is no different than anyone who insisted he was innocent. Of course, there are definately some who proclaimed his innocent with utter certainty despite not knowing all the facts. I imagine anyone who thought he might be guilty was conscious of now having all the details, and therefore had the brainpower to avoid some sort of definitive judgement. It's just remarkable petty and hypocritical, and this is coming from someone with no interest in, no knowledge of, and no opinion on the Valerie Plame issue.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA <So, you are saying life is too easy, so let people stir stuff up by breakiing things.> Well, not really. Life is like a roller coaster.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>Life is like a roller coaster.<< Filled with twists and turns that make one a little sick and disoriented, eventurally leading you right back to where you started?
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Originally Posted By Darkbeer <a href="http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110008918" target="_blank">http://www.opinionjournal.com/ best/?id=110008918</a> >>The Washington Post reports that Richard Armitage regrets having leaked the identity of sort-of-secret CIA employee Valerie Plame, consort of Angry Left egomaniac Joe Wilson: Armitage said he deeply regrets embarrassing [Colin Powell] Powell, the State Department, his friends and family, and the Wilsons. What about President Bush, Vice President Cheney, Scooter Libby and Karl Rove?<<
Originally Posted By friendofdd With both YourPalEd and Beaumandy, I think we have finally achieved balance. Life is good.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 (shooba)<<Puh-leeze. How many people admitted they were wrong after insisting that Terri Schiavo was capable of recovery and that her husband murdered her? The autopsy confirmed her brain was mush and no charges were laid>> <Terri Schaivo's husband did murder her and she was not brain dead.> So the answer is: no one here admitted they were wrong about Schiavo. Of course, I think only one person was holding out the idea that she was not brain dead even after the autopsy.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "With both YourPalEd and Beaumandy, I think we have finally achieved balance. Life is good." LOL. On this we can agree.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy I makd sense and back up what I say. I also am right most of the time when the smoke clears. Ed is a typical liberal who has never once backed up any of his liberal views. <<I think only one person was holding out the idea that she was not brain dead even after the autopsy.>> Terri Schaivo was not brain dead and her autopsy never said this. Brain damaged, yes. Brain dead no. You guys got your way, she was killed, so who really cares.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh "'Vegetative' Woman's Brain Shows Surprising Activity - Tests Indicate Awareness, Imagination" <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/07/AR2006090700978.html" target="_blank">http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/07/AR2006090700978.html</a> Of course, some said at the time of the Schiavo contraversy that this couldn't be the case.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder And with Schiavo, it wasn't, so what's the point of this? Surely you don't intend to waste bandwith here. Could there be a more perverse way to hijack a topic?
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh I wasn't the one who brought up Schiavo, or who got this thread off-topic. It's funny that you should talk about wasting bandwidth. What did your last post accomplish?
Originally Posted By jonvn I wonder if people have fun house mirrors installed in their house. You know, the kind that makes you look upside when you look into them....
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I promise this will be my last off-topic here; but because one vegetative woman shows surprising activity does not mean that is the case with Schiavo, and in fact it wasn't. People here were claiming that she was still able to respond to visual stimuli, for instance; the autopsy showed that the part of her brain that responds to visual stimuli was gone. Not damaged, gone. But some people still won't change their tune.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <I promise this will be my last off-topic here; but because one vegetative woman shows surprising activity does not mean that is the case with Schiavo, and in fact it wasn't.> I agree, nor did I intend to imply such. <People here were claiming that she was still able to respond to visual stimuli, for instance> And others were claiming that wasn't possible, and were doing so before the autopsy was done. My only point in bringing up this new case is to show that those people who claimed she couldn't respond were as likely to be incorrect and those who claimed she could. There was a legitimate debate at the time.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Except I believe that all the doctors that had seen her that had not been hired by the parents were saying the same thing. I also took the opportunity to read up on neurology and brain function (and at the time there was a lot of available material), and it seemed to me the experts who were saying it was highly unlikely her brain could ever be brought back to functioning were probably right. I actually started off saying "wait a minute - don't pull the plug yet" - I was an err on the side of caution kind of guy. But as I read more and more about it, from neurological experts and from the doctors who had actually seen her - I found it far more likely that her state was exactly what the autopsy showed it to be, and that she should be released and let her soul go to God.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh Would you like your life or your loved one's based on "probably" or "likely"? There are sometimes we should err on the side of cautiousness. I don't know if that was the case in the Schiavo case, but I recognized that both side made some points and had some problems.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy << People here were claiming that she was still able to respond to visual stimuli, for instance; the autopsy showed that the part of her brain that responds to visual stimuli was gone. Not damaged, gone. But some people still won't change their tune>> Her parents and family said she responed to them. That was good enough for them. So they wanted to have her live with them. But noooooooo.... The libs insisted she be murdered because she didn't meet their minimum requirements to live any longer.
