Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Doing anything creative is a difficult thing. Disney tries the hardest that I've seen in the public arena. I prefer to observe the parts of the attractions that DO work well, and that even Walt would have liked. It's too easy to point out things that aren't to your liking, or the shortcomings. You can do that with anything, including Walt's best.>> Sure ...everyone's a critic. But it's a whole lot harder to criticize the merits of PoC in any of its versions at any park than it is Test Track or worse DinoRama or the worst, Pooh's Playground and Kiddie Germ Park. Creativity is very difficult for those who don't have it. It's why some people are able to touch so many with their books, films, art or theme park attractions. There's no denying that Disney is still capable of great major attractions like Everest or moderate ones like PhilharMagic or even minor ones like Turtle Talk. But there's also no denying that creativity has taken a back seat to global homogenizing/branding, 18-month marketing schemes and short-term fixes that don't fix anything. I may not like every creative idea that comes down from Glendale, but when attractions are greenlighted that show little or no creativity/story/purpose to begin with, well, that just ain't a good thing.
Originally Posted By BlueOhanaTerror >>>Stitch's Great Escape - Just not entertaining and just plain gross. In fact, I doubt that the character of Stitch would have ever been greenlit by Walt, even for the movie. Or, if it had been, I doubt there would have been many 'bodily function' references.<<< Go back and watch some of the earliest Disney cartoons... They feature a lot of crude material. Walt was known for having a crass, country-borne sense of humor. He evolved, certainly, but I think he would have loved the comic possibilities that Stitch afforded. Stitch is to Disney today, what Donald was to Disney in his heyday.
Originally Posted By BlueOhanaTerror ^^I agree that the ride, however, (SGE) is woefully lacking in storytelling.
Originally Posted By brotherdave I would have to disagree about Stitch. Donald never resorted to crude bodily functions for humor!
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> Stitch is to Disney today, what Donald was to Disney in his heyday. << The poster was not saying they were equivalent, but that they were both products of their times. I like Stitch. (the character and movie)
Originally Posted By BlueOhanaTerror >>>I would have to disagree about Stitch. Donald never resorted to crude bodily functions for humor!<<< For his time, Donald's behavior was considered boorish and socially unacceptable. That's a big reason as to why he was even funnier to people in the 40's and 50's. It wasn't just his temper, it was a lack of regard for social constraints. He was "edgy" for his time, and until Stitch starts actually farting, I can live with his burps and nose-picking, as this is no different from every little kid in 2nd grade.
Originally Posted By Capstan What about when Stitch rubs his butt on the glass in the movie or the little mechanical character puking nuts and bolts?~ Does this thread apply to Disneyland or just WDW? Cause I don't think he would have allowed an Indiana Jones attraction or one based in warfare, meaning Star Tours.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 ^^^^^^^^^ no Star Tours because of warfare ?-- what about the Davy Crockett TV series ? Centers on warfare against the natives of this country......of the gunsfights at the fort in DL - etc. ?
Originally Posted By brotherdave Star Tours (and Star Wars, in general) I think he would have loved! In fact, if Walt were alive when George Lucas was peddling his idea for Star Wars in the early 70s, I think he might have been interested in making it. Then again, he liked total control over projects, so then again, maybe not. Unfortunately, we'll never really know!
Originally Posted By crazyformickey I loved the Stitch movies but the ride is a waste of time. I have gone on it once and that was enough for me. My son who loves Stitch has no desire to ride again. We miss AE
Originally Posted By Capstan I don't think Walt would have been interested in promoting a future filled with war. I think he would have seen it as a possibility to avoid. It's not quite the same as looking at history.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 When he made all the WWII cartoons - it wasn't history, it was current day events as well as future 'predictions' of the outcome. While I agree he would never glorify war, portraying any movie where good triumphs over evil is likely to have gotten an okay...
Originally Posted By Capstan I disagree. I think he would have concentrated on a more positive outlook for the future.
Originally Posted By Capstan Of course. Walt was certainly willing to do his share for the WWII effort, but I expect he regarded those films as an interruption in his real work, which was making people feel better about their world. Even if he had a view of the future as gloomy as Lucas, which I very, very seriously doubt, I don't think he would have cared about marketing it to the public. But you're right, vbdad, we'll never know. Unless, of course, he really is frozen, and they bring him back. But I doubt that too.
Originally Posted By a1stav "I don't think Walt would have been interested in promoting a future filled with war." "Even if he had a view of the future as gloomy as Lucas, which I very, very seriously doubt" "think he would have concentrated on a more positive outlook for the future." I am sorry, but none of these statments pertain to "Star Wars". In the opening credets to Episode 4 (I always have a hard time calling it that and not just Star Wars). "A Long, Long Time Ago in A Galaxy Far, Far Away..." Star Wars is a fantisy fiction and mythology. It has nothing to do with science or futerisim. It is fantisy pure and simple. Now your statments would be true if Disney built Terminator 2 3D, but they did not, Universal did.
Originally Posted By a1stav ^^^ You can think that, but it does not change the fact that Star Wars has nothing to do with the future. So saying that Walt had an optimistic view of the future does not have anything to do with Star Wars.
