Originally Posted By FerretAfros This sentence from the D23 page also stood out to me: >>As part of the largest expansion in the history of the park, Disney Parks is adding all-new entertainment experiences...<< First of all, they're pushing the "largest expansion in the history of the park" again, just like they did with the Fantasyland expansion at MK, and I feel that it's also fraudulent here. By physical area, I don't see how this 'expansion' will add more space to the park than the Everest expansion (heck, all of Asia was added to the park, but in 2 phases); by attractions, it will probably tie with Dinorama (or have fewer, depending if you count the games and the 2 Primeval Whirls). Most of the space for this expansion is currently space that guests can access, and they only appear to be adding 2 attractions And it also bugs me that they're saying that Disney Parks is adding these things, rather than the specific park or WDI. I know it's supposed to be a bland corporate press release, but it just sounds dumb. If you really want to sound corporate, just call it "Walt Disney Parks and Resorts", the official name of the business unit
Originally Posted By mrkthompsn I'll never save up, reserve a hotel, pack the car, drive the kids for 8 hours, and risk sunburn all to see Beastly Kingdomme. That idea looks good on paper only.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I'm a bit surprised at how quiet the response has been to the jaw dropping Avatar Land concept art from the usually vocal corner of the online fan community that incessantly criticizes WDW. I guess crow is unusually dry and bitter this season.
Originally Posted By sjhym333 I think it is more a wait and see then eating crow. The concept art looks great. But Disney's concept art always does. The proof will ultimately be in the pudding. Here are some of my observations though: It is interesting that the opening date is 2017. That is a long way off for a project that was announced in 2011. Makes me wonder why. Is is a fiscal year thing? Is is because it isn't fully fleshed out beyond the concept art and model? Makes me wonder what would take so long to get the thing built? Having worked at Disney and Imagineering I know that concept art is just that...concept art. I have learned over the years that the best thing to do is not to get too excited because the project will certainly change (and potentially a lot) over the next 3 or so years. I am excited that Joe looks like he is the show producer for the project. I think his work at the AK has been wonderful and I think he does themeing well. I have high hopes that it will look great. Having said that...I am concerned that looks will not equal great attractions. The redo of Fantasyland comes to mind. It is beautiful to look at but short on great attractions.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "I think it is more a wait and see then eating crow." I agree in general, although I was mostly poking fun, sort of. I do think there's a chorus online that tends to be pretty quick and unrestrained when it comes to expressing their opinions, which tends to be that Disney sucks. It's those fans in particular that I'm talking about. "Having said that...I am concerned that looks will not equal great attractions. The redo of Fantasyland comes to mind. It is beautiful to look at but short on great attractions." That would be par for the course. The recent changes at DCA, for example, were stellar, however the project came up short on "great" attractions in my opinion. The results have exceeded their expectations, so what do I know?
Originally Posted By FerretAfros For me, other than the giant structurally-questionable mountain in the model, there really isn't too much to get excited about. The flight attraction appears to be some sort of simulator (possibly similar to Soarin'), as has been assumed for a long time. The glowing plants in the boat ride look neat, but look pretty similar to the opening scenes of Journey to the Center of the Earth at TDS (which is pretty neat, but it opened 12+ years ago) <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.tdrfan.com/tds/mysterious_island/journey_to_the_center_of_the_earth/gallery005.jpg">http://www.tdrfan.com/tds/myst...y005.jpg</a> To me, it seems like the stuff they're adding will be well detailed and executed, and themed impeccably. However, from what I've seen, it's just not anything completely groundbreaking. DAK needs the extra capacity, and this is sure to pull more guests in, but it doesn't appear to be a game changer to me >>The concept art looks great. But Disney's concept art always does.<< But does it always? ; ) <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://wdwnewstoday.com/archives/7913/pff593242large">http://wdwnewstoday.com/archiv...242large</a>
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance The concept art looks amazing. Is it okay to compare is to the scale and grandness of WWOHP, or is that still not okay? Because Han's stitches have just healed, and we don't need anymore broken glass laying around.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Back in '76 ... I thought Space Mountain was going to be GIANT! <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTU4WDE2MDA=/">http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTU4WDE2MDA=/</a>$%28KGrHqR,!loE-3vNNoIRBP2kZ3J4I!~~/Disneyland-Space-Mountain-WED-Concept-Design-Prints-Signed_57.jpg Then I rode it: <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.themeparkinsider.com/photos/images/IMG_3325.JPG">http://www.themeparkinsider.co...3325.JPG</a> ... and went: OH! Not quite as GIANT as the artwork lead to believe.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Lets try that again: From: <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTU4WDE2MDA=/">http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTU4WDE2MDA=/</a>$(KGrHqR,!loE-3vNNoIRBP2kZ3J4I!~~/Disneyland-Space-Mountain-WED-Concept-Design-Prints-Signed_57.jpg To: <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.themeparkinsider.com/photos/images/IMG_3325.JPG">http://www.themeparkinsider.co...3325.JPG</a>
Originally Posted By sjhym333 I don't know. The inside of Space Mountain looks JUST like that. HA HA Ha
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "...other than the giant structurally-questionable mountain..." LOL, what does this mean Ferret?
Originally Posted By oc_dean ERRRR!!!! FROM..... <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Disneyland-Space-Mountain-WED-Concept-Design-Prints-Signed-By-Legend-Bob-Gurr-/00/s/OTU4WDE2MDA=/">http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Disneyl...DE2MDA=/</a>$(KGrHqR,!loE-3vNNoIRBP2kZ3J4I!~~60_57.JPG?rt=nc TO...... <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.themeparkinsider.com/photos/images/IMG_3325.JPG">http://www.themeparkinsider.co...3325.JPG</a>
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Is it okay to compare is to the scale and grandness of WWOHP, or is that still not okay?" No need to ask permission since we all know the pointless comparisons will start appearing around the internet any moment now (if they haven't already) and continue until Jesus comes.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Dean, look at the model of Avatar Land. Compare the scale of those rock features to the people on the ground.
Originally Posted By oc_dean AAAAAACK!!! <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-qw1tTYJEZj4/Ulxp82iBHwI/AAAAAAAABV8/SXIA0q_TkGc/s720/SM%2520SMALLER.JPG">http://lh5.googleusercontent.c...LLER.JPG</a> I had enough! I just stuck it on my Picasa Photo Albums!
Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>"...other than the giant structurally-questionable mountain..." LOL, what does this mean Ferret?<< It means that I'm not sure how they're going to build it. It will take a ridiculous amount of interior steel support to build anything that looks remotely like the 'floating mountain' in the model. The bottom is the smallest part of it, and there are several smaller 'mountains' jutting out from it. It can be done, but it would be very expensive for a show element that doesn't contain an attraction, store, or restaurant and serves no real purpose other than to look pretty And we've seen WDW's recent track record with their unusual structures. The Tree of Life and Splash Mountain both have coverings over the walkways below them to prevent pieces from falling off and hitting a guest. If they can't even maintain a 'normal' shaped mountain like SM, I have very little confidence in them to keep up something as complex (with various parts dangling over major walkways) as the one in the mountain in the concept model
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>Dean, look at the model of Avatar Land. Compare the scale of those rock features to the people on the ground.<< after scrolling down just a bit.... <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://d23expo2013.tumblr.com/">http://d23expo2013.tumblr.com/</a> with the people in the foreground, and the floating mountains looming in the far background ... they look huge. Can't wait to see how they intend on supporting them .. and look like they are just floating.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance What I'm most pleased about when looking at the concept art, is that anyone could appreciate those designs. Even someone who isn't a big fan of Avatar. (Like me)
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "I had enough! I just stuck it on my Picasa Photo Albums!" LMAO! I don't even know you, yet I can imagine you feverishly trying to get the dang link to post here correctly. Congratulations!
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Can't wait to see how they intend on supporting them .. and look like they are just floating." It's pixie dust, duh.
