Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>I guess if you don"t care to say how your really feel it would have been best if you had not posted anything.<< But then these topics would be boring. >>My post was also in jest. I am sorry if it hurt your feelings.Let us know next time if it is a joke.it is hard to find the fun when you are attacking people your do not know.<< It didn't hurt my feelings. I knew exactly where you came from.. reason you got the answer you got.
Originally Posted By disneydad109 cookie monster bottle rocket underpants I still don"t understand you. You must be too smart for me. BYE BYE
Originally Posted By LadyandtheTramp Another boomer here who has in fact increased the number of visits to WDW - from once ever couple of years to basically twice a week(end). About the only week we don't go is when we're out traveling.
Originally Posted By LadyandtheTramp Oh, and never, ever used a stroller, and never, ever got any complaints. Even now, the "kids" (34 and 31) still enjoy talking about how we went all day long, and then did it again and again until we left.
Originally Posted By MPierce I was 50 before I ever went to WDW. Now I'm retired, and catching my second wind. If I get to old or feeble, I'll be one of those people on the scooters. You know, the ones' that everybody seems to hate.
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey My mother loves going to WDW every year, and she'll be 78 in December. We don't do the scooter thing, but we do rent a wheelchair for her. We took my six year old nephew for the first time in February and didn't rent a stroller for him or allow him to sit on my mom's lap in the chair. He walked everywhere and only complained once about being tired - two seconds later he was racing his cousin to the front of Epcot, so I suspect he wasn't as tired as he claimed.
Originally Posted By CMM1 Was it not the baby boomers who essentially provided a large middle class population with disposable incomes and possessing a willingness to travel that made WDW what it is today? I would have no doubt that the majority of posters on this site would most certainly (and proudly) point out what big Disney fans they have been and will be for the years ahead. But from a demographic aspect of middle-aged family people with disposable incomes, is that segment smaller than it had been and/or declining since the '70s-'90s?
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>I'll be one of those people on the scooters. You know, the ones' that everybody seems to hate.<< "Seems" to hate? You mean we DO hate, for the simply reason that most people on scooters are not feeble or old. They are people who have allowed themselves to get as big as a house and can't carry their weight around anymore. BIG DIFFERENCE. When I see these "feeble" guests park their scooters and walk into a queue just find, it troubles me terribly. >>My mother loves going to WDW every year, and she'll be 78 in December. We don't do the scooter thing, but we do rent a wheelchair for her.<< At least those wheelchairs are not as big as the strollers they rent, and I can accept a 78 yrs old guest in a chair over some young child around the age of 10, being wheeled around the MK in a huge double seat stroller. >>Was it not the baby boomers who essentially provided a large middle class population with disposable incomes and possessing a willingness to travel that made WDW what it is today?<< Probably so, but that ended when Bush reformed the Social Security and the cost of living in this country has gone thru the roof. Go to any WDW park today and count how many older guests you see versus children who have been taken out of school by irresponsible parents who much rather do that and save on a visit to WDW, over their children's education.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <versus children who have been taken out of school by irresponsible parents who much rather do that and save on a visit to WDW, over their children's education. < can't lump this all together-- we did this every year, not to save money but to avoid crowds...and my oldest is a Deans list college athlete and my youngest is a straight A student. If they were struggling students of course I would never have done...but leaving school a week early after they have already turned in their text books doesnt hardly qualify as irresponsible
Originally Posted By Fe Maiden <<All those 30 somethings pushing the double wides are Gen x'ers -- no one my age looks that young - LOL!>> That would be me. And I thoroughly enjoyed my first Disney trip with a double wide. We also brought grandmom along and added the evil ECV as well. It's a pretty effective way to tour the parks. Once someone gets pulled under by the doublewide, and you've got grandmom, pedal to the metal, following right behind to finish them off. If anybody wanted to complain, I don't think they were even capable.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper I did Sea World a couple of weeks ago with the new Sit and Stand stroller. It is great. The baby sits in the carrier on the front of the stroller and there is a "jump seat" if you will on the back where the 3 year old can stand or sit. We must have been stopped 30 times from parents with double wides who wanted to know where we got it. $120 at Target. Good news was it is easier to maneuver than the double wide and we can avoid hitting most people.
Originally Posted By MPierce "Seems" to hate? You mean we DO hate, for the simply reason that most people on scooters are not feeble or old. They are people who have allowed themselves to get as big as a house and can't carry their weight around anymore. BIG DIFFERENCE. When I see these "feeble" guests park their scooters and walk into a queue just find, it troubles me terribly. What if I'm old, fat, and feeble? Will you hate me and my scooter then?
Originally Posted By MPierce That first part was meant to be a quote from TDLFAN. Sorry that's twice today I messed up on that.
Originally Posted By beamerdog I'm in a ECV in WDW and any other "walking" vacation and I don't think that TDLFAN hates me ;-) well, I could be wrong - you never know, lol.
Originally Posted By CMM1 Re: Scooters (1) If a person really needs one due to age or illness, seems like a great technological device in that it allows them to get out and do things they might not otherwise be able to do (2) If a person needs one due to personal lethargy or to lack of self control in some aspect, then I guess I would feel sorry for that person as they ultimately may become a person in category number 1 I'm just happy to be one of those "average" persons that doesn't have any problem walking or getting around.
Originally Posted By jkayjs Grew up on "Wonderful World of Disney" and the original "Mickey Mouse Club". I'm obviously a dyed in the wool boomer. Made my first visit is a Disney park in Oct of 1972 on WDW 1st anniversary. First visit to DL was in May of 75 on my honeymoon. Our visits have only increased over the years and now we go several times a year. Our kids grew up knowing the Disney legacy since we knew nothing else. No I do not think things will slow down due the boomers. As we add to our family we bring them along and have developed a new set of fans(neither had ever been with their families). As others have said we look forward to taking grands if we ever get any. BTW back in the day most double strollers were front to back. Our kids were born in July of 76, June of 78 and May of 80 so we required a double stroller for awhile with them. As soon as they could walk steady on their own they wouldn't stay in a stroller anyway. As for the scooters, my mother is 75 and trust me when I say I wouldn't want her on one in a crowd of people. We just started getting a wc over the last several years due to her increasing problems with her asthma. Well I think I covered everything.
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey My mom refuses to rent a scooter because she's afraid she'll take somebody out by accident .
Originally Posted By CMDad <<(1) If a person really needs one due to age or illness, seems like a great technological device in that it allows them to get out and do things they might not otherwise be able to do (2) If a person needs one due to personal lethargy or to lack of self control in some aspect, then I guess I would feel sorry for that person as they ultimately may become a person in category number 1 I'm just happy to be one of those "average" persons that doesn't have any problem walking or getting around.>> For the past few years - ending in December, 2005 - I fit into the first category. Happily today I am able to walk (and breathe!!!) and appreciate the fact that I can walk - so I do!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 For every person I see with an ECV that truly needs one, I see 3-4 morbidly obese folks that use them to get to their next turkey leg. And, frankly, I'm tired of waiting for them to get loaded on magical Disney buses. To have an illness or a handicap is one thing. To be fat and lazy is something else.
