Originally Posted By jdub Actually--and I say this partially to make RoadTrip feel more comfortable--some of them DO still serve the 'spresso drinks. Like one of my favorites, Bay Books in Monterey. Great store, great city!
Originally Posted By CuriosWolfSo TALL, would you believe, like the "Harry Potter" book, the OZ books were banned to due to the use of magic?
Originally Posted By CuriosWolfSo Ugh, let me try that again... TALL, would you believe, like the "Harry Potter" books, the OZ books were banned due to the use of magic?
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy Doesn't surprise me...I'm surprised none of the Narnian or LOTR books have ever been banned or "challenged"---guess I should hold my tongue!
Originally Posted By Mr X ***I applaud schools and libraries for taking a stand, in general.*** Schools, okay. Libraries? No, I disagree totally. Sure, they might want to have "restricted" sections (you know, like in Harry Potter ) for adults, but no I don't want anyone else deciding what is or isn't okay for ME to read, listen to, or watch. Sorry, it's MY life and MY right to decide these things, not the government. In the case of truly ILLEGAL stuff (kiddie porn, rape, and a few other extreme things), yes it should be banned. Once you start getting out of that general, pretty black and white area, then things go bad. Sorry, I enjoy some of the stuff on that list and resent the implication that it's "not for me". Yep, America. Land of the free. ***I'm glad that certain recording artists have found it difficult to secure major record deals*** I'm not. Not at all. Again, if it needs to be restricted that's fine (however, it should be up to the parent and noone else to decide what the child listens to, reads, or watches, as long as the parent purchases it and it's not illegal stuff as mentioned above). If the recording artist is garbage, they won't sell many records right? If they're popular, there must be a reason. Who is anyone besides the parents to say (some find the Beatles offensive, Prokofiev and Shostakovitch were shunned in Russia at one time for writing "un-patriotic" music)?? ***I wish there were MORE restrictions on freedom of expression.*** Ugh. ***Before we categorically say, "Book banning is bad!" we ought to think of whether all efforts to protect people from inappropriate content are small-minded.*** Book banning is bad! Efforts to do so are small-minded. Sorry, but I don't been anyone making efforts to "protect" me, thanks. Nothin but love for ya and all, I-57, but here we gotta agree to disagree I guess.
Originally Posted By SuperDry Apparently, last week as Banned Books Week. There's information on the ala.org (American Library Association) and abffe.com (sponsored by American Bookseller's Association). I'm sure these organizations had lots of related press events, which is why it's in the news this time of year.
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy I'm a little surprised Narnia and LOTR books haven't ever been challenged. And Greek mythology...jeez, with all the incest, murder, beastiality, and sex you'd think there'd be a "challenge" there! (But dang, is it juicy readin'...)
Originally Posted By CuriosWolfSo Shhhh..TALL, don't tip off the librarians about the Greek mythology books as well as the Roman and Egyptian ones.
Originally Posted By Mrs Nurmi "I'm a little surprised Narnia and LOTR books haven't ever been challenged. And Greek mythology..." I think a lot of time it has to do with small minded people who haven't even read what they're banning. Mythology isn't really widely ready anymore, ergo no one is talking about it. They don't actually *read* the stuff, so if no one is *talking* about it, then it wont' be banned. So listen to the Wolf! Don't tip 'em off!
Originally Posted By jdub >>small minded people who haven't even read what they're banning.<< Same thing with the Harry Potter books. The people screaming about them either haven't read them, or don't have the comprehension level to realize they're about heroism and friendship. I wonder if CafePress sells "Klooless Klub Kandidate" badges?
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>they're about heroism and friendship<< And faith, ethics, love, loyalty, values, equality, to name a few more.
Originally Posted By Labuda Here's a thought... banning books is the small-minded way to avoid a topic.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer You hit the nail on the head, Labuda. Instead of reading Huck Finn (who, I might add, is a close personal friend) along with discussions of slavery and historical justifications for it makes for a very rich educational opportunity. By banning Huck Finn because of a word that has fallen out of favor everywhere but Hip Hop culture, you lose out on a great chance to see how far we've come as a society and nation )everywhere but Hip Hop culture). Read Mein Kampf and study the faulty logic that informed Hitler. Use it to study propaganda and the failure of logic behind racial hatred. Our kids are not stupid, and they don't need to be protected. They need to be educated, and sometimes the best way to do that is to talk to them about extraordinarily difficult subjects after they have read great books that deal with them.
Originally Posted By peeaanuut <<Read Mein Kampf and study the faulty logic that informed Hitler. Use it to study propaganda and the failure of logic behind racial hatred.>> Also get a good understanding of how easy it is to amass hopeless people to whatever cause you have. Also understand how propaganda is the strongest political ally in the world.
Originally Posted By cmpaley Isn't Mein Kampf Carl Rove's handbook for the Bush Administration? ;-D (JUST KIDDING!)
