Originally Posted By Mr X ***Yes, I do expect more from our elected officials but in the age of Oval Office shenanigans, public restroom controversies, long distance affairs and bold faced lying I guess I should just lower my expectations.*** 66% of that is Republican shenanigans. (more like 75% if you include the lying) Just sayin. By the way, isn't it "bald faced lying"? Maybe I missed something on that one, I never heard "bold" myself.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Bald faced lying? Now you are insulting my hair style. Man...you are tough.
Originally Posted By hopemax For wahoo... <a href="http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1161398/ready_to_rumble_greatest_fistfights.html?cat=9" target="_blank">http://www.associatedcontent.c...ml?cat=9</a>
Originally Posted By ecdc Wahoo, I see two problems with your approach, one tactical, the other practical. First, the practical. It's my experience that people ask questions only expecting to get back answers that make sense to them and their ideology. You cannot rationalize with an irrational person, and this woman was irrational. Second, the tactical. Frank could've said, "Well ma'am, your question is a logical fallacy because it assumes the program at hand is a "Nazi program." It is not, and here's why." She would've shouted some more, waved her picture some more, and that would've been it. And then there would've been no headlines, and we wouldn't be talking about it. Frank emboldened the other side of the debate - his side. It's still a top story at Huffington Post. Yes, I know what Huffington Post is - and the only people who will be embolden by this are liberals anyway. It's already a popular hit on YouTube. You may find that disappointing, that we've sunk that low, but Frank didn't start this fight.
Originally Posted By velo re Bald-faced v. Bold-faced <a href="http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/baldfaced.html" target="_blank">http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/err...ced.html</a> "The only one of these spellings recognized by the Oxford English Dictionary as meaning “shameless” is “barefaced.” Etymologies often refer to the prevalence of beards among Renaissance Englishmen, but beards were probably too common to be considered as deceptively concealing. It seems more likely that the term derived from the widespread custom at that time among the upper classes of wearing masks to social occasions where one would rather not be recognized." Your factoid for the day. (and because I started wondering, myself)
Originally Posted By Mr X So...neither is okay? Wow. Now I'm very confused. <---barefacedly puts away holier-than-though cloak for the day
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<Your factoid for the day. (and because I started wondering, myself)>> This is what separates us from the tin hat crowd: genuine curiosity about the world around us. (And thanks, velo, for the clarification. I always thought the saying had something to do with beard vs no beard, but I guess that's not correct.) The tin hat crowd doesn't want to think and expects others to do it for them, for whatever reason. One could reasonably argue that uneducated individuals past 65 years would rather not engage in critical thinking, given all the opportunities for continuing education on the government's dime, especially for seniors. Retired folk who are healthy enough to shop and drive a car and attend political rallies are healthy enough to attend at least one class each semester through adult ed, senior centers, or community colleges. So, if you're older than 65 and are still uneducated, chances are good that you don't enjoy learning new things and have chosen to remain ignorant. And there's no way a rational and logical thinking adult can reason with someone who chooses to remain ignorant. It's no wonder that Fox News' main demographic is composed of uneducated white males over 65. It's also the main demographic for the disruptors at the town hall meetings. Coincidence? I don't think so.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 It's also amazing to me that the people who choose not to research or think for themselves are the ones getting the angriest. It's a shame that one can be so passionate about something they don't even comprehend...
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder This woman did the verbal equivalent of slugging Frank in the face without provocation. That he defended himself and hit back is wholly appropriate.
Originally Posted By Princessjenn5795 I wish Barney Frank was my congressman...mine is your typical whiney do nothing type. Good for him for standing up to her...what kind of person asks a gay jewish man about supporting Nazi polcies? She totally deserved that. Maybe future dingbats will remember that before they open their mouths.
Originally Posted By Labuda Kudos to Congressman Frank. I've always liked the man and respected him, and that respect grew by leaps and bounds today watching this video. Good for Congressman Frank treating the loon like a loon instead of handling her with kid gloves.
Originally Posted By charming husband ^^not me. He has always come across as a bad version of a Mafia member to me.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "^^not me. He has always come across as a bad version of a Mafia member to me." Seriously? You don't know much about the Mafia then.
Originally Posted By charming husband ^^so you think that he looks like a good version of a Mafia member?
Originally Posted By Mr X Personally, I see him as a dedicated, relatively honest, smart-as-a-whip Congressman. He could use a P.R. makeover since he often comes across as gruff and/or sarcastic, but perhaps that's the way he prefers it (I daresay he's a more successful person than most folks posting here!).
Originally Posted By mawnck He comes across as a very smart **New Yorker** who has no compunctions about speaking his mind and isn't reciting from this morning's talking points email. I suppose any gruff, outspoken overweight guy in a suit could pass for a mafia member in some folks' minds. Hmmmmmm ... <a href="http://ftloveblog70.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/rush-limbaugh.jpg" target="_blank">http://ftloveblog70.files.word...augh.jpg</a>
Originally Posted By Mr X What, that guy mawnck!? He's too easily bullied. The Mafia would've cut off his manhood and thrown him to the fishes early on. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNK4byQkn7w" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...4byQkn7w</a> Barney Frank is 10X the man he is, easily.
