Originally Posted By charming husband I don't consider him a "king among men" in any way, shape, or form. when it is found out that a gay prostitute is running a call-guy service from an apartment in the city in which you live for 1 1/2 years-and you claim that you had no knowledge-that's a bunch of baby poo poo. Top that off with fixing 33 of this call-guy's parking tickets and it makes me wonder why the Dem party hasn't picked from the numerous better politicians to replace him a very long time ago.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***it makes me wonder why the Dem party hasn't picked from the numerous better politicians to replace him a very long time ago*** The Democratic party has no choice in the matter. Or don't you understand the meaning of free elections?
Originally Posted By Mr X Attempts to expel or censure Barney Frank were led by Larry Craig. Nuff said. *yawn*
Originally Posted By charming husband +The Democratic party has no choice in the matter...+ don't be naive
Originally Posted By Mr X Hardly naive. Trust me, if the parties had the power to remove people at will, they WOULD (note that Michelle Bachman is still an elected official...as was the vilified Ted Stevens until he set himself on fire).
Originally Posted By ecdc >>when it is found out that a gay prostitute is running a call-guy service from an apartment in the city in which you live for 1 1/2 years-and you claim that you had no knowledge-that's a bunch of baby poo poo.<< We're back to that lack of critical thinking skills we've all been talking about. This is an ad hominem fallacy. Today in Internet parlance, ad hominem is incorrectly bandied about to refer to insults or flames. In reality it literally means "the man" and refers to when people ignore arguments in favor of attacking the person. It's fallacious because a dumb person, or an evil person, or a foolish person, can still make a good argument or a good point. Here, Barney Frank's actions many years ago have no bearing on what happened at this town hall. Wahooskipper, for example, realized this and confined his criticisms to Frank's comments at the town hall. Would that all conservatives had taken some reason classes.
Originally Posted By charming husband ^^lack of critical thinking is exhibited in the post above. I never said that Frank's actions had a bearing on what happened at the town hall. did you bother to read the title of this topic -Barney Frank a King among Men. I disagree-cited my reasons.
Originally Posted By charming husband Many if not most of the posts here in WE exhibit sociocentrism as well as a lack of Intellectual Humility-if you want to talk critical thinking.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>did you bother to read the title of this topic -Barney Frank a King among Men. I disagree-cited my reasons.<< Since I wrote the title, yeah, I bothered to read it. And any reasonable person would interpret it in the context of the link that was also provided in the OP - his response to the woman at the town hall. It's also been the focus of the thread throughout. But I suppose someone could have come along and said, "What a stupid thread! America is a Democratic Republic, so we don't even HAVE Kings! How can Frank be a King among men in America! Duh!" But, just like your post, that would've pretty much missed the point entirely.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Many if not most of the posts here in WE exhibit sociocentrism as well as a lack of Intellectual Humility-if you want to talk critical thinking.<< So...many...jokes. Must...resist.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <did you bother to read the title of this topic -Barney Frank a King among Men. I disagree-cited my reasons. > You should have better reasons, then. This was all hashed out years ago, and despite the right wing (led by the influential Washington Times) calling for his head and powerful GOP congressmen/senators who would have loved nothing more than to oust him (or kill him politically), led ironically by Larry Craig (!), all the serious charges were found to have no substance. They did reprimand him for fixing the parking tickets. Basically, Frank foolishly fell for a good looking young person who played him for a fool temporarily - like that's never happened to a straight congressman. At least Frank wasn't married or involved with anyone at the time. And he shouldn't have fixed the parking tickets, he admitted as much, and he was rightly reprimanded and that was it. His constituents took note that there was no substance to any charge but the parking tickets, and returned him to office easily in the next election and have continued to do so ever since.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "I don't consider him a "king among men" in any way, shape, or form. when it is found out that a gay prostitute is running a call-guy service from an apartment in the city in which you live for 1 1/2 years-and you claim that you had no knowledge-that's a bunch of baby poo poo. Top that off with fixing 33 of this call-guy's parking tickets and it makes me wonder why the Dem party hasn't picked from the numerous better politicians to replace him a very long time ago." BINGO! This is the kind of thing I KNEW was going to come from somewhere when I made post 4 in this thread. It has nothing to do with Frank properly putting down this woman's ridiculous display at the town hall and instead personally attacks Frank. Well done, charming husband, well done.
Originally Posted By Pal of Minnie "It has nothing to do with Frank properly putting down this woman's ridiculous display at the town hall and instead personally attacks Frank. " I can't stand the man either. But to say CH personally attacked-wrong-he pointed out facts as to why he felt the way he did. You don't agree-so what. "BINGO!" whoooooooo--a conspiracy theory. whatever.
Originally Posted By Jesus "I can't stand the man either. But to say CH personally attacked-wrong-he pointed out facts as to why he felt the way he did. You don't agree-so what. "BINGO!" whoooooooo--a conspiracy theory. whatever." What the hell?? He points why he's feeling justified personally attacking Frank, nothing more. Which, of course, is crap. Make sense next time you decide to jump in here.
