Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan A simple change would be that instead of the flapping flat doors painted with leaves as you enter, that could have been book pages. The movies are great because the books come to life and the animators played with that idea. A combination of the flatness of a book and curled oversized pages, with MUCH more animated AA characters, and a cohesive concept, could have made a big difference.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I think the un-articulated figures stand out more because of the scale of the attraction. Due to modern ADA codes, there is more space between the vehicles and the sets, which makes it easier to critique the simple animation. Even in the classic Fantasyland dark rides, only the Pan/Hook duel has any real AA-type motion, and even that is pretty crude; everything else is done with simple motors repeating the same motion over and over. But it works because you're inside a small charming environment With Pooh, you're stuck in this huge warehouse filled with large props and oversized scenes, yet the characters don't have much life to them. Even in the bigger scale "dark rides" like Indy, HM, and POTC, much of the life and visual motion to fill the space comes from other effects, while the AA's are used more to highlight certain areas But again, the WDW/HKDL version of the attraction is nearly identical and incredibly popular. I just don't get it
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I love the storybook pages opening idea, 2oony. It's a natural based on the films, and the flatness actually works for it. They could also greatly enhance the ride for relatively little if just one "focus" character per scene were well animated. Your eye would immediately go there, and the static nature of the other characters wouldn't be so glaring. When they're ALL static, it really is just like a Disney store. The same goes for Monsters. Little Mermaid does better here. In several scenes, there is one well animated focus character (or two) and much of the rest is not, but your eyes go to the motion and it doesn't matter so much.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Californians have better taste?>> Somehow I totally doubt that. (Duffy?? Really???) I think FerretAfros nailed it... The Magic Kingdom has only two FL dark rides.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "I think FerretAfros nailed it... The Magic Kingdom has only two FL dark rides." What, The Little Mermaid doesn't count?
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Oh. I forgot about that being added in the FL expansion. When we were there last fall other than walking around to check out the themeing, we didn't visit any of the new attractions. They were all mobbed, and we knew there will always be another time. My absolute limit is a 40 minute wait, and Ann isn't fond of anything over 30 minutes. Strangely enough, my longest wait ever was for Pooh at a little over 2-1/2 hours. My late wife and I had been in line for about an hour when the attraction broke down. Since we already invested that much time in riding the danged thing, we were reluctant to just walk away. So we waited. And waited. Finally, after 75 minutes, the attraction restarted. Another 15 minutes and we were on the ride. That put me over the edge and was the end of long waits for me. I vowed to never wait more than 40 minutes for anything, and I've stuck to it.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>What, The Little Mermaid doesn't count?<< I was thinking more of the traditional C-ticket bus bar style dark rides. If we're counting The Little Mermaid, then there's also an argument to include Buzz Lightyear, Pirates, Haunted Mansion, it's a small world, and maybe even Splash Mountain, though I consider those to be in a different category HKDL only has Pooh for a "traditional" dark ride. They built the building for Peter Pan, to be added in a mythical Phase 2, but it continues to sit empty nearly 10 years later. Kind of ironic, since Pooh consistently has one of the longest (if not the very longest) queues in the entire park and does very well in guest satisfaction ratings. Kind of makes you wonder why they haven't developed the other darkride space into *something*
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt >>What, The Little Mermaid doesn't count?<< "I was thinking more of the traditional C-ticket bus bar style dark rides." I think that definition has broadened a bit over the past decade or so since Disney began incorporating more advanced tech in the old C tickets like Alice and utilizing some traditional low tech in non bus bar type rides like Buzz. Looking at the video of the new Pan attraction at DL I don't see a whole lot of difference between it and Little Mermaid other than "flying" and the sophistication of a couple of the AAs.
Originally Posted By monorailblue I have to comment that the Peter Pan changes don't have me excited the way the Alice changes did. The nursery scene just doesn't look great to me, and the other changes appear to be exceptionally subtle. Good updates, but too subtle, it seems to me. Hopefully, in person they will really impress.
