Originally Posted By wahooskipper SG: " Why do all conservatives base their arguments on hatefulness?" Easy does it with the gross generalizations.
Originally Posted By Mr X You have to admit though Wahoo, that between the noise machine haters and a number of folks in GOP leadership, it's easy to make such a generalization these days. It's certainly unfair to you reasonable conservatives out there, but perhaps you are looking to the wrong people when placing the blame.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>SG: " Why do all conservatives base their arguments on hatefulness?" Easy does it with the gross generalizations.<< Agreed.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>It's certainly unfair to you reasonable conservatives out there, but perhaps you are looking to the wrong people when placing the blame. << Thanks. And I agree with you that it's easy to pick an easy scapegoat for tough to solve problems.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy << Easy does it with the gross generalizations. >> I agree. My response was meant to be in the same gross generalization that the OP used to characterize 300 million Muslims. Any sorts of characterizations of people in that regard are faulty.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 That's true; SG was actually parodying the OP by using the same construction and substituting the word.
Originally Posted By dshyates Snappy, I just want to thank you for reaffirming my faith that we are doomed. The world of fantasy you live in hurts my head and the fact you believe it with such conviction is scary. You truely scare the crap out of me.
Originally Posted By snappyfun >>An "eye for an eye," eh? That's a really Christian philosophy you have there.<< You need to count better, 3000 and 2 are not an eye for an eye. If the number was 2 for 2or 3000 for 3000 then we would have an eye for an eye. And Jesus said, "Love your enemy, do good to those who persecute you" Now if we look in the Koran (Allah’s book) It say’s lie in wait for your enemy, and when you can slit his throat, maybe you think this is a better idea then what Jesus said, but thank God we are a country based on Judaea Christian values, not Muslim ones. One thing Jesus never said is, that Jews have to commit suicide, and make believe the Muslim World does not want to take over Israel by any means necessary.
Originally Posted By snappyfun >>You truely scare the crap out of me.<< Maybe you should have lived near 9-11 or lost family there like I did, then maybe you would grow up and understand that it’s not me you need to me scared of.
Originally Posted By snappyfun >>Your misunderstanding of his post does not make him an anti-Semite. It's like throwing around a charge of racism promiscuously and it makes you look terrible<< The truth stands on its own and it's still the truth.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <That's true; SG was actually parodying the OP by using the same construction and substituting the word.> Why do ideologues say things that are so obviously untrue? Why do people who claim to be honest and fair keep giving them a pass? Any honest person can go back and read what snappyfun wrote on this thread and see that what Dabob claims happened is not accurate.
Originally Posted By snappyfun "Why do ideologues say things that are so obviously untrue? Why do people who claim to be honest and fair keep giving them a pass? Any honest person can go back and read what snappyfun wrote on this thread and see that what Dabob claims happened is not accurate." Thank you, I love truth tellers.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>Why do ideologues say things that are so obviously untrue?<< I don't know. I've been asking that since you made the untrue statement that Arlen Specter denigrated peoples' religion. So you'd probably be a good person to answer your very own rhetorical question. Not that you will, of course.
Originally Posted By dshyates "Maybe you should have lived near 9-11 or lost family there like I did, then maybe you would grow up and understand that it’s not me you need to me scared of." One of my best friends was on the plane that went into the Pentagon. And my uncle was in the pentagon, but fortunately made it out. And you and the warpped fantasy world you live in scares me. Especiallly since I know there are so many more just like you out there.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <>>Your misunderstanding of his post does not make him an anti-Semite. It's like throwing around a charge of racism promiscuously and it makes you look terrible<< <The truth stands on its own and it's still the truth.> What a lame rejoinder. It is not true that SG is an anti-semite just because he insists that you not lump all Muslims in with terrorists and apparently doesn't agree with Netanyahu's settlement policy (which about half of Israelis don't either). Yet, you jumped right to calling him an anti-semite, following your statement "nd the Muslims who flew the jets into The Twin Towers in New York where really Jews working for Bush right?" - something that (obviously) SG never said. Face it - you threw out a charge without merit and you've been called on it. <Any honest person can go back and read what snappyfun wrote on this thread and see that what Dabob claims happened is not accurate.< My bad - sort of. It was based on a snappy post from another thread, rather than this one, in which snappy defamed all liberals in the same way. Such posts are, in fact, all over snappy's output, and if you were honest you'd admit that. <hy do ideologues say things that are so obviously untrue? Why do people who claim to be honest and fair keep giving them a pass?> Physician, heal thyself.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <I've been asking that since you made the untrue statement that Arlen Specter denigrated peoples' religion.> One, I said religious views, not religion. Two, my statement was never shown to be untrue. Why do you keep defending dishonesty?
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Such posts are, in fact, all over snappy's output, and if you were honest you'd admit that.> Considering how often I've seen you misrepresent what people have said, I'm not going to take your word for that. I haven't read all of snappyfun's posts, but I've seen a lot more liberals misrepresent the views of conservatives on this board than I have seen conservatives overgeneralize about liberals. If you were honest you'd admit that.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <Two, my statement was never shown to be untrue.> Wow. Let's review. You stated that Specter denigrated people's religious views. You were challenged to provide evidence of that. You never did. It's not up to anyone else to show it was untrue - by definition you can't prove a negative. What was 2oony supposed to do - provide a link to every utterance Specter ever made to prove he never denigrated? No - it was up to you to show that he did so, if you're going to make that claim. You never did. You obfuscated, you gave your lame excuses, you insisted others show it to be UNtrue - the usual. <Why do you keep defending dishonesty?> 2oony's never done that in his life as far as I can see. You are another matter entirely.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <Considering how often I've seen you misrepresent what people have said,> Nice try, but untrue. <I'm not going to take your word for that. I haven't read all of snappyfun's posts, but I've seen a lot more liberals misrepresent the views of conservatives on this board than I have seen conservatives overgeneralize about liberals. If you were honest you'd admit that.> Of course you'd see things that way. But also untrue. On the other hand, you don't even have to look very hard for examples from snappy. Seriously. Hell, if you didn't show more intelligence (at least once upon a time), I'd swear snappy was your sock puppet, created to let your id run wild.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>my statement was never shown to be untrue<< LOL! That's how low the standard is now? You make a claim pulled straight from your posterior, can't support it with any facts, but it's up to everyone else to prove it is untrue? That may work for your favorite Fox News personalities, but not in the real world. If you were honest, you'd own up to it. Months and months later, you still can't. Which means you are a liar, unfit to be lecturing anyone about honesty.
