Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan I should. Maybe that he'd understand. Because the concept of "facts" and "evidence" clearly elude him.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <It's not up to anyone else to show it was untrue> It is up to them to show it if they want to claim it's untrue. If you were honest you'd admit that.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >> It is up to them to show it if they want to claim it's untrue. << In 1982, Ronald Reagan showed up an my house one evening. He barged right in, danced the funky chicken in my living room, then ran back out, laughing wildly, and dove into his limo and was driven off. The Secret Service agent told me to keep it quiet as long as Reagan was alive or terrible things would happen to me. I am now free to tell the story. Now, Douglas, prove it ain't so.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan It's really kind of sad. Because everyone from time to time gets overheated, caught up in the moment, and says too much. This is what happened with The Great DouglasDubh / Arlen Specter Kerfluffle of 2009. Rather than just admit to being human, he keeps trying to spin up as down, day as night, lie as truth. It's pure foolishness.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh Unlike you, if I can't prove something isn't true, I don't claim it's not. That's how an honest man behaves.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>That's how an honest man behaves.<< An honest man doesn't make claims he can't back up with facts. You did that. You are dishonest. As an idealogue, you stated something as fact. When called on it, (it was originally a polite request for some evidence) you started your usual two-step, flim-flam routine. Then you jump in on this thread as if you have a thing to say about honesty. You don't get to just make up stuff and then it's up to the rest of the world to prove it isn't so. That isn't how it works.
Originally Posted By snappyfun >>You don't get to just make up stuff and then it's up to the rest of the world to prove it isn't so. That isn't how it works.<< Wish I knew what you where saying.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <It's not up to anyone else to show it was untrue> "It is up to them to show it if they want to claim it's untrue. If you were honest you'd admit that." Wow. Really? You're sticking with that? Really? Let's say that I suddenly became a truther. And I said that "cheney admitted that 9/11 was an inside job. He said so himself." Anyone here would have the right to say "Prove that, please. Provide the quote." if I then fell back on "Prove Cheney didn't say it," every person here would be justified in a) never taking me seriously again, if I stuck to that, and b) laughing me off the street. Like we're doing to you now.
Originally Posted By snappyfun >>Considering how often I've seen you misrepresent what people have said, I'm not going to take your word for that. I haven't read all of snappyfun's posts, but I've seen a lot more liberals misrepresent the views of conservatives on this board than I have seen conservatives overgeneralize about liberals. If you were honest you'd admit that.<< Be careful the hate that these liberals will direct at you will be like nothing you can believe from people who say they love Disneyland. It's like there Muslims and you just made fun of Allah, its scary.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy Another post where "Muslim" is used as a derogatory description for a group of people . . . it's pretty clear what motivates a poster to continue the same hate speech over and over and over.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 "Be careful the hate that these liberals will direct at you will be like nothing you can believe from people who say they love Disneyland. It's like there Muslims and you just made fun of Allah, its scary." insisting that someone back up his assertions does not constitute "hate."
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <An honest man doesn't make claims he can't back up with facts. You did that. You are dishonest.> I didn't do that, and it's dishonest to claim I did.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <if I then fell back on "Prove Cheney didn't say it," every person here would be justified in a) never taking me seriously again, if I stuck to that, and b) laughing me off the street.> Well, they may be justified, but they won't do that. Because you have claimed that I have said things I didn't, refused to back down, and been defended by your fellow liberals. So don't try to pretend you have the moral high ground. It's not true.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Be careful the hate that these liberals will direct at you will be like nothing you can believe from people who say they love Disneyland.> I'm well aware of their tendancies. I've been posting here for quite some time.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <if I then fell back on "Prove Cheney didn't say it," every person here would be justified in a) never taking me seriously again, if I stuck to that, and b) laughing me off the street.> "Well, they may be justified, but they won't do that." If I came out with that truther crap, yes they would, and they'd be right. "Because you have claimed that I have said things I didn't, refused to back down, and been defended by your fellow liberals." you can say that as much as you like, and it's a lie every time. You did say this Specter thing, and you even admitted it, just splitting hairs between religion and religious views. And then fell back on the lame beyond belief "prove he didn't do it.". And you've been taken to task here by fellow conservatives here too, some even saying you give them a bad name, so don't try to pretend it's just a lib/con thing. "So don't try to pretend you have the moral high ground. It's not true." I didn't claim moral high ground. The claims I have made are true, though.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>I didn't do that, and it's dishonest to claim I did.<< This is beyond ridiculous. What's next, you'll stamp your feet on the ground and hold your breath until you turn blue? You lie.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Unlike you, if I can't prove something isn't true, I don't claim it's not. That's how an honest man behaves.<< 1) Here, Douglas claims something is "not true" that he cannot prove is not true. <a href="http://mb.laughingplace.com/MsgBoard-T-95986-P-8.asp" target="_blank">http://mb.laughingplace.com/Ms...-P-8.asp</a> 2) Here, Douglas claims something else is "not true" that he cannot prove is not true. <a href="http://mb.laughingplace.com/MsgBoard-T-75736-P-6.asp" target="_blank">http://mb.laughingplace.com/Ms...-P-6.asp</a> 3) Yet again, Douglas claims something is "not true" that he cannot prove. <a href="http://mb.laughingplace.com/MsgBoard-T-84471-P-6.asp" target="_blank">http://mb.laughingplace.com/Ms...-P-6.asp</a> 4) Can you guess what happens? Douglas specific claims something is "not true" but can't prove it. <a href="http://mb.laughingplace.com/MsgBoard-T-85689-P-15.asp" target="_blank">http://mb.laughingplace.com/Ms...P-15.asp</a> 5) Well this is getting silly. <a href="http://mb.laughingplace.com/MsgBoard-T-103460-P-4.asp" target="_blank">http://mb.laughingplace.com/Ms...-P-4.asp</a> By Douglas' own standards, he is a dishonest man.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <you can say that as much as you like, and it's a lie every time.> I'm not the one lying here. That would be you, and your two fellow travelers.
