Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan They're not being silent.... From the New York Times: >>Mr. Jackson described Mr. Biden’s remarks to the Observer, which also included critical statements about the Iraq positions of two of his Democratic opponents — Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York and former Senator John Edwards of North Carolina — as “blabbering bluster.†A wounded note to his voice, Mr. Jackson pointed out that he had run against Mr. Biden for the 1988 Democratic nomination, and had lasted far longer and drawn more votes than did Mr. Biden. Mr. Biden was forced out in September 1987. “I am not sure what he means — ask him to explain what he meant,†Mr. Jackson said. “I don’t know whether it was an attempt to diminish what I had done in ’88, or to say Barack is all style and no substance.†Mr. Sharpton said that when Mr. Biden called him to apologize, Mr. Sharpton started off the conversation reassuring Mr. Biden about his hygienic practices. “I told him I take a bath every day,†Mr. Sharpton said. No stranger to electoral intrigue, Mr. Sharpton was quick to offer a political motive: That Mr. Biden was drawing distinctions between Mr. Obama and African-American leaders like Mr. Sharpton and Mr. Jackson, to “discredit Mr. Obama with his base.â€<<
Originally Posted By melekalikimaka <<A wounded note to his voice, Mr. Jackson pointed out>> OH BROTHER!
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Have you ever heard either one of them more subdued when they are those they represent were attacked? It is a blatant double standard which the media by and large is letting them get away with. If it wasn't such a great synopsis of what the media has become then it would be funny.
Originally Posted By melekalikimaka Yeah but the media is LOVING all of the snippiness that is supposedly going on between democrats right now. Why are they reporting it if they're so liberal?
Originally Posted By wahooskipper There is a difference between reporting it and going sensationalistic. Are they reporting it? Yes. With the vigor and vile that they are so good at? No. Of course, I don't think Obama is considered the frontrunner by the media. How would they be portraying this if Hillary had said it? (Actually we have a little history on that as they gave her a pass when she tied the search for bin Laden to 7/11s.) The media giveth...and the media taketh away. And, is that what they are supposed to be? Or, call me crazy, are they just supposed to report the news?
Originally Posted By DlandJB They haven't just reported the news in a very, very long time. My guess is the media wants to play with Biden awhile more before actually letting him implode. So this will be the first of many things. They haven't even touched the plaguerism angle yet...so they are "Biden" their time.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper "Biden" their time....funny stuff! It is also telling that there are only 26 posts on this topic. If the topic had read: "Condolezza is mysteriously absent" how many folks in LP do you think would have commented on it?
Originally Posted By DAR Yeah please remove post 28, sorry about that. From now on I'll acknowledge all jokes with a badump bump.
Originally Posted By DAR If I say anymore my foot will just keep going further in my mouth, hey kind of like Joe Biden.
Originally Posted By DlandDug Any of you hear Biden try to pin his "clean" remark on his Mother? You can't make this stuff up. <a href="http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/238992" target="_blank">http://www.suntimes.com/news/p olitics/238992</a>,CST-NWS-biden01.article EXCERPT: >>During a conference call with reporters, Biden said he was quoted accurately and meant to praise Obama with a comment reflecting his mother's expression: ''Clean as a whistle, sharp as a tack."<<
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder What part about what Biden said isn't true? -He's the first mainstream African American candidate. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, for purposes of running for President, definitely aren't mainstream. Shirley Chisholm, an otherwise very admirable woman, was not a mainstream candidate back in the 70's either. -He's articulate and he's bright. I don't think anyone would argue otherwise. -He's clean and nice looking. Looks good in a suit and has good physical features. Moreover, he's clean by any definition you want to use. But to get to the point here, is everyone here who is saying Biden meant something sinister here going to say they've never either themselves used the phrase "clean and nice looking" or heard someone else use it? "Clean and nice looking" could easily describe a person, place or thing. Obama is clean and nice looking. Some beaches in the South Pacific are clean and nice looking. That '57 Chevy is clean and nice looking. What part about what Biden said was wrong or not true?
Originally Posted By melekalikimaka <<Biden said he was quoted accurately and meant to praise Obama with a comment reflecting his mother's expression: ''Clean as a whistle, sharp as a tack."<< Maybe he should have said that with a touch of wounded sadness. (Gag)
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Pass...you are in denial. You are starting to sound like....like....a Republican apologist. You know exactly what Biden meant and you also know it was out of line. And, he is developing a history now that is most certainly uncomfortable.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 SPP, if he'd said "I mean, you got the first African-American running who's considered a frontrunner, right in the mainstream. And he's articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy." - probably nobody says anything. But he said "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy." - which can be read as not only weren't Jackson and the others mainstream (which could be argued), but they weren't articulate and bright and clean or nice-looking either. Thus, the hubbub.
