Originally Posted By DAR Collin Powell fits the bright and articulate description and the Bush administration is finding that out. Though I do think Condelezza is a smart woman too.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper And, if you had seen and heard the comments his body language spoke volumes.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Nope, don't see it. And don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of Biden's. I just think people want to project too much here. Biden give people enough ammo to not like him as it is without conjuring up bad intent. Even Obama isn't upset.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Obama is going to be judged by every single action and reaction and is under perhaps the strongest microscope of all. Obama didn't project being upset. The mark of an excellet politician.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <Even Obama isn't upset.> Obama wasn't dissed as much as the previous black candidates. While I think this is being a bit overblown (predictible though - the news channels have to talk about something), it certainly can be read as a dis of the previous candidates, as though Obama were the first black candidate who was bright and articulate and clean. (I did love Jackson pointing out that he did much better in '88 than Biden did).
Originally Posted By DAR The last year or so we've had everyone from Dick Cheney to John Kerry to celebs like Mel Gibson say something that caused more than a few eyes to roll. The best course of action might be to not say anything.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>What part about what Biden said isn't true?<< >>-He's clean and nice looking.<< Except that's NOT WHAT BIDEN SAID. If you're going to offer a lame defense, at least get the quote right. He said, "...clean and a nice-looking guy." Now I do agree that what Biden said would seem to be true. Obama is, indeed, clean. But why would anyone need to comment on it? That said, I am inclined to believe that Biden simply misspoke. When I first heard the sound bite, I assumed he fumbled the words "clean cut." But even that is a bit disconcerting. Why the need to assert that an African American is clean cut? And Biden was clearly talking about the fact that Obama is African-American. I am absoultely certain that if any Republican, running for office or not, had made the same word-for-word statement, he would have been forced to offer myriad apologies to every civil rights group in the country.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "Except that's NOT WHAT BIDEN SAID. If you're going to offer a lame defense, at least get the quote right. He said, "...clean and a nice-looking guy." Gee Doug, yell all you want, simply because I don't see the problem doesn't mean it's lame defense. You'd think you said this. You wanna talk lame? Making an issue because I left out the word "guy"? That's lame. Mountain out of a molehill, mountain out of a molehill.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>Mountain out of a molehill, mountain out of a molehill.<< Apparently.
