Originally Posted By RoadTrip I'm confident in public when I REALLY know what the hell I am talking about. As an IT guy I had to give training sessions on new software. I was very confident in those situations because I was the expert, I knew what I was talking about. Other than that, I am really quite shy. It is not that I don't want to interact with others... I just feel uncomfortable initiating the conversation. If someone else starts it, I will gab away.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance Trust me, there is no coming out of my shell. I can become more familiar as I grow to know people and situations. But I'm always going to be shy and that's that. My husband is really introverted as well. But around each other we're anything but quiet. Just depends on the situation. If I had to give a speech, I would literally be shaking with fear. I would love to meet so many of you guys from LP someday, I've grown to know so many of you guys and enjoy our discussions immensely, but I know how awkward I would be, so it makes me feel like running and hiding when I think about actually doing it.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I totally understand. Even though I'm comfortable doing it, I find it a chore to have a conversation with strangers.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I like the idea behind it, but the packaging seems kind of strange. Why put a bottle inside a cardboard tube? And why is it a glass bottle, rather than one of the normal-sized plastic ones? It just doesn't seem very practical for use in the parks (where you can't get through the bag check if you have glass containers...) That said, these bottles would fit in perfectly in the recently re-themed shop across from Soarin'. It definitely evokes the midcentury roadtrip idea
Originally Posted By Dis-Philip Dagobert, need I remind you that the evil Spirit is never to be trusted? He's a compulsive liar, you know.
Originally Posted By Dis-Philip To those who said bad things about auger, shame on you. He's a great CEO and has done an excellent job of saving the company and getting it away from the Evil Eisner messes. Also, I hope PeterPan1313 will reply to this topic so he can share what he knows about this presently.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<To those who said bad things about auger, shame on you. He's a great CEO and has done an excellent job of saving the company and getting it away from the Evil Eisner messes.>> Now I KNOW you are out to lunch. Eisner was one of the best CEO's in Disney's history.
Originally Posted By Dis-Philip No, RoadTrip. Not true. Eisner was only good during the first 10 or so years with the company. After the death of Frank Wells in 1994, he ran amok and ruined the company, causing it to go downhill and have more failures than successes.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<After the death of Frank Wells in 1994, he ran amok and ruined the company, causing it to go downhill and have more failures than successes.>> Poppycock. During the post Wells era Eisner opened 7 resorts in WDW, the GCH in DL, new theme parks in both WDW and DL, and Downtown Disney at both WDW and DL. Films released during that period include Toy Story, Hunchback of Notre Dame, A Bugs Life, Tarzan, Toy Story 2, Monsters Inc, Lilo & Stitch, Finding Nemo, and The Incredibles. If that is failure, I want to see more failure from Disney.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Yeah, the whole Eisner was evil nonsense is phooey. With a few notable exceptions Iger has continued guiding the company in basically the same direction as Eisner.
Originally Posted By oc_dean You two have selective memories. Under Eisner's second 10 year period: 1. Light Magic 2. Journey Into YOUR Imagination 3. Let 20,000 Under The Sea shut with no plan with a replacement attraction for years. 3. Walt Disney Studios Paris - one of the worst designed parks in history 4. cancelled the elaborate Tomorrowland:2055 5. opened TL:98 in it's place 6. DCA 1.0 Shall I continue??? I got SEVERAL more I can dish out. No question .. under his first 10 years .. He did some good stuff. Then he had his heart surgery, loss of Frank, money troubles with Euro Disney ALL AT THE SAME TIME ... He got cold feet on a lot of things from that point on. Not like any of this wasn't hashed out here on this board .. I've only been here since 2000 ... to read it all!
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Let's not forget all those direct-to-video sequels of classic animated films! Anybody up for a little viewing of Cinderella III? Overall, I agree that Eisner was a very good CEO and ultimately made a more positive impact on the company than a negative one (by a long shot). Although Iger has had some pet projects of his own, I think he more-or-less stayed true to the course that Eisner set out. After all, Iger was Eisner's right hand man (if we're using the "evil" card, I believe Iger's title would be henchman or goon) >>2. Journey Into YOUR Imagination<< From the stories I've heard, Eisner was furious when he rode it for the first time; whatever had been described was not what was delivered. Attractions don't get completely overhauled after 18 months without getting approval from on high. I don't know who is ultimately responsible for that project (probably whoever decided that the budget was adequate), but it wasn't really Eisner Personally, I think that the 2nd version of the ride was a huge downgrade from the original, but it was still better than what's there now. At least the 2nd version set out to do something different and had a clear vision throughout. The current one is a mishmash of the 2nd version, with some annoying Figment tossed in, and most of the really impressive effects (constellation room, upsidedown realistic truck, exploding memory scanner, train of thought, color room) removed or seriously toned down and replaced by things that are insulting to a toddler's intelligence
Originally Posted By Dis-Philip Are you out of your mind Ferret?! The current Imagination is waaaaaay better than the terrible 2.0 version!
Originally Posted By Dis-Philip Oc_dean, my thoughts exactly. Drop your selective memories, Hans and RoadTrip, and stop being blind to the cold hard fact that the second half of Eisner's tenure really was a reign of terror and a dark time for the company overall despite the aforementioned successes.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Drop your selective memories, Hans and RoadTrip, and stop being blind to the cold hard fact that the second half of Eisner's tenure really was a reign of terror and a dark time for the company overall despite the aforementioned successes.>> Hyperbole, much? <<1. Light Magic 3. Let 20,000 Under The Sea shut with no plan with a replacement attraction for years. 4. cancelled the elaborate Tomorrowland:2055 5. opened TL:98 in it's place>> I think responsibility for those decisions was primarily with Paul Pressler, not Eisner. <<2. Journey Into YOUR Imagination>> As previously stated, Eisner hated the attraction. Eisner was CEO, not head of Imagineering. <<3. Walt Disney Studios Paris - one of the worst designed parks in history>> And Magic Kingdom Paris is probably the most beautiful MK in the world. More than likely Eisner doesn't deserve the credit for DLP or the blame for DSP. Again, he was CEO, not a design guy. <<6. DCA 1.0>> I don't think DCA 1.0 was that terrible a park. There were parts of it that I preferred to what exists there today. But more than anything it served as a "foot in the door" for a second DL Park. I doubt Eisner or anyone else felt it was a complete park when it opened. They appeared to follow the plan they used with the Studios and AK at WDW, opening a park that clearly wasn't done. Given the audience at WDW it worked there. It did not work in Anaheim.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros There you go again, trying to be reasonable and use logic. Like that could ever defeat a "reign of terror"! Pishaw!
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt It would be naive to say that Eisner didn't have some spectacular misses under his tenure, the explosive departure of Jeffery Katzenburg and Michael Ovitz and the Go.com bomb among them. Michael Eisner took big financial and creative risks that I doubt we'll ever see another Disney CEO take, and for that I will always be a fan. In the end it was he that transformed Disney into the multi-billion dollar media company that it is today, not Iger, and by the time he left though the company was far too big for his hands-on management style. "Overall, I agree that Eisner was a very good CEO and ultimately made a more positive impact on the company than a negative one (by a long shot). Although Iger has had some pet projects of his own, I think he more-or-less stayed true to the course that Eisner set out. After all, Iger was Eisner's right hand man (if we're using the "evil" card, I believe Iger's title would be henchman or goon)" Interestingly enough one of Eisner's final tasks before leaving was hand-picking Iger to be CEO, so there's that. Other than branding the parks to death, I have no real bone to pick with Iger as a manager, and he seems to be the right fit for the massive media company that Eisner built. He's doing a good job at running a 21st century Disney, I guess, but to me he doesn't compare to Eisner in terms of his personal passion for, or the ability to transform, the business he's running.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt On a related note, look how much Eisner's son resembles him: https://pmcmovieline.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/eisner12.jpg CREEPY!
