Originally Posted By bean i think if they had to pick a park in WDW to build the volcanoe it would be DAK. The storyline would revolve around mythical animals. DAKs logo has mythical animals already and since beastly kingdom was never built there is plenty of room for it in that corner of the park.
Originally Posted By BlueOhanaTerror >>>I would think that the chances of a "5th gate" for WDW are slim and none - only if WDW was experiencing record numbers of hotel bookings in their resorts would any idea of another park be entertained.<<< The Polynesian apparently was at 9% occupancy just a couple of days ago... Yes, 91% VACANT. This despite assurances from certain folks (folks responsible for that stuff) kept saying that advance bookings for the day were solid. It's a very slow time of year in general for the resort, but this was kind of a rude shocker. I don't know what other hotels suffered similar losses. But yeah, no matter what... this is a four park resort. There's really no need and no compelling reason to dream up another theme to hold an entire park together. There's so much that can be done with any of the existing parks now.
Originally Posted By CMM1 <<How could it fit in correctly in DAK>> Could fit in the TDS volcano as "Vulcania Island" as part of a "Pacific Ocean" region with animals from the Galapagos Islands or perhaps Australia or New Zealand.
Originally Posted By dennis-in-ct <<The Polynesian apparently was at 9% occupancy just a couple of days ago>> The prices are too high. I am curious to know what the occupancy rates were for the less expensive hotel. A comparison like that could be telling. <<Could fit in the TDS volcano as "Vulcania Island" as part of a "Pacific Ocean" region with animals from the Galapagos Islands or perhaps Australia or New Zealand.>> Agreed. I would love to see that in DAK. For the Studios, do Indiana Jones. For the longest time I thought the Mermaid Lagoon would be perfect. But now - I think Mermaid Lagoon would be great for the back of Fantasyland.
Originally Posted By gadzuux World showcase in epcot cries for a new attraction. I'm not aware of any significant additions back there since opening. Some people love it, I know - but there's nothing to do but eat, drink, shop and stroll. In other words, move from one cash register to another while soaking in atmosphere.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <I'm not aware of any significant additions back there since opening.> What about Norway? But yeah, nothing lately.
Originally Posted By TMICHAEL >>>I've always felt it would have been a great addition to the back of Fantasyland in WDW's MK, in the place where the old 20K Leagues ride was.<<< Yeah, right....NOT! How utterly ridiculous that would look in photo alone, an erupting volcano behind the Castle. Would never happen. Well, unless Fantasyland were re-themed to a Tolkein novel.
Originally Posted By TMICHAEL >>>Could fit in the TDS volcano as "Vulcania Island" as part of a "Pacific Ocean" region with animals from the Galapagos Islands or perhaps Australia or New Zealand.<<< OKay, now you're talking sence. This would work beautifully.
Originally Posted By CMM1 <<Yeah, right....NOT! How utterly ridiculous that would look in photo alone, an erupting volcano behind the Castle. Would never happen. Well, unless Fantasyland were re-themed to a Tolkein nove>> 1. No more so ridiculous than people might have thought when the Matterhorn was placed next to the castle in DL. 2. Alternatively, if you would put the Volcano directly behind the castle it could be done in such a way that when looking at castle down Main Street the volcano would be completely unseen - then upon walking through the gates of the castle and entering Fanstasyland, one could be surprised/amazed/astounded by the volcano as it came into view. 3. You could build the volcano in the same manner in which they did BTMRR and Space Mountain - far on the park periphery. You could go, for instance, build it on the other side of the train station for Tomorrowland/Toontown station.
Originally Posted By CMM1 <<It's a very slow time of year in general for the resort, but this was kind of a rude shocker. I don't know what other hotels suffered similar losses.>> On August 14, they were calling guests in the All-Star Sports where we were staying to make sure you checked out on time as they were going to have a lot of incoming guests due to the dining promotions that were starting that week. It would be interesting to see how that promotion was doing in terms of the number of guests taking advantage of it.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 I'm sure that Disney is (yet again) having a huge problem filling all those rooms they built thinking WDW was Las Vegas. Hence, the free food offering (which I will be taking advantage of myself). There simply isn't the demand for 30,000-plus rooms on property during much of the year. I'm sure the value and moderates are likely doing better than the deluxes, but 9% at the PolY??? That's 9/11 type numbers. As for JTTCOTE, the park where it was rumored to be going was DAK ... basically where BK was supposed to be built. I heard rumors of it being announced on the team's 10th anniversary in 2008. But those rumors have gone silent ...
Originally Posted By TMICHAEL >>>1. No more so ridiculous than people might have thought when the Matterhorn was placed next to the castle in DL.<<< I just need to ask, why would people think that a Bavarian/European style castle would look ridiculous next to the Matterhorn? Um, do you know where the real Matterhorn is? ;-) >>>2. Alternatively, if you would put the Volcano directly behind the castle it could be done in such a way that when looking at castle down Main Street the volcano would be completely unseen - then upon walking through the gates of the castle and entering Fanstasyland, one could be surprised/amazed/astounded by the volcano as it came into view.<<< Highly doubt that, Mt Prometheus is HUGE! The distance from it, the castle, to the old 20k leagues site is not far enough to hide it. It would still be seen as a volcano behind the castle until one was directly in front of the-------------------STOP STOP STOP--------------------------------------------------- forget that, it COULD work AND you wouldn't have to hide it! So sorry, I had blinders on. Lets say they re-theme it to a VILLAINS MOUNTAIN and instead of a Lava Beast, "The Climax" could be you have traveled by mistake into Malificence Lair and she transforms into the Dragon before your eyes! Then, seeking to silence you, chases you thru the caverns...not only appearing once but multiple times. So sorry, I was taking JTTCOTE literally not thinking outside the box for a moment. My bad
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I think that it would be visible from most places that look toward the front of the castle, but if positioned correctly could look pretty small. If they did it on the edge of the 20K space next to Toon Town Fair, then it would be far enough away, visually, to make it look feasable. The buildings on Main Street would block the view for a good part of the walk, and the trees and Fantasyland showbuildings could also hide it from the hub, to some extent. Only after entering Fantasyland would you really see the whole scope of the mountain. It may also be visible from other areas, but would still fit in with each land (except possible Toon Town Fair, but the close proximity could actually help it become less visible, as the buildings could cover a higher percentage of the mountain. And if the castle can be seen from all over the park and not be cited for theme issues, than a mountain would certainly fit in.
Originally Posted By bean i think there was a misunderstanding. Unless i am the one that read the persons post wrong. I understood the person saying that Mermaid lagoon would be perfect at the old 20kleagues under the sea area not the volcanoe. maybe i should reread it and see if i misunderstood
Originally Posted By bean ok this is what Dennis said "<<Could fit in the TDS volcano as "Vulcania Island" as part of a "Pacific Ocean" region with animals from the Galapagos Islands or perhaps Australia or New Zealand.>> Agreed. I would love to see that in DAK. For the Studios, do Indiana Jones. For the longest time I thought the Mermaid Lagoon would be perfect. But now - I think Mermaid Lagoon would be great for the back of Fantasyland." fromt hat post i understood that he agreed that JTCOE would be great for DAK. also that for a long time he thought mermaid would work for MGM but now feels they need Indiana jones there and that mermaid lagoon would be great for Fantasylands old sub area
Originally Posted By tonyanton While I loved Mermaid Lagoon...it would really just add on another bunch of nicely themed spinners, etc. I'd much rather see the old Little Mermaid dark ride plans dusted off for the 20,000 Leagues site. I'm not sure how much of the space it would need...if there was room, putting in Prince Eric's ship adjacent and creating an area similar to the old Hook's ship/Skull Cove that was in DL and can be seen currently in Paris, would be great. It would also allow a small lake/water area in Fantasyland and compliment the Mermaid themeing.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer A lot of new info is available in Al Lutz MiceAge update today.... <a href="http://www.miceage.com/allutz/al091206b.htm" target="_blank">http://www.miceage.com/allutz/ al091206b.htm</a> >>First up is the new Midway Mania ride in Paradise Pier, an attraction that has yet to be formally acknowledged by Disney but is already under construction and on track to open in Anaheim in less than two years. But the big stuff is planned for the 2008-10 timeframe when pretty much everything from the Orange Stinger to Golden Dreams is torn out and replaced with a new San Francisco concept. At the same time the remnants of Paradise Pier located within the footprint of California Screamin' get the full Pixar treatment with the characters of Toy Story taking over the boardwalk. The focus for all of this is squarely on the family market, with the intense Maliboomer space shot type of ride even being turned into a much tamer parachute drop similar to the one Knott's Berry Farm had for many years, except this one would be themed to the Green Army Men from Toy Story. With the Orange Stinger, Golden Zephyr, Jumpin' Jellyfish and Mulholland Madness all removed, there would be room for Lasseters big-budget family E-Ticket based on the movie Cars and themed to San Francisco, including cars zipping down a remade Lombard Street. The folks at WDI were impressed with all of the attention John Lasseter has been giving to the Submarine Voyage, and they're even more impressed with the bigger budgets John is able to get from Jay Rasulo simply due to the political clout he has with Bob Iger. <<
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "At the same time the remnants of Paradise Pier located within the footprint of California Screamin' get the full Pixar treatment with the characters of Toy Story taking over the boardwalk." Bleaaaach.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss I have heard over and over from many folks that the parks should be unique and cloning of attractions should be kept to a minimum, yet now everyone wants these clones, or whole parks even? I don't get it. No wonder Disney is content to keep building the same ol' over and over... why innovate when you can copy and still keep everyone placated?
