Originally Posted By Park Hopper >>So, DCA will eventually have not one, but TWO themed areas completely themed to Pixar films? I guess I might as well get on the bandwagon with the Pixar-ization of the DLR and quit complaining. It ain't easy though.<< You are forgetting that Paradise Pier is due to get a Toy Story overlay when Midway Mania opens. So then we will have three "districts" at DCA themed to Pixar films. Of course Monsters Inc. and Finding Nemo are already featured prominantly in Hollywood. I think DCA will soon be PCA. ..and let's not forget what is happening to Tomorrowland...
Originally Posted By gadzuux >> Red-hued mesas of the desert southwest seem like an odd transition in between the wharf area and Hollywood, which is sort of where this is rumored to go. << No moreso than the transition would be between desert mesas and a seaside amusement pier.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "You are forgetting that Paradise Pier is due to get a Toy Story overlay when Midway Mania opens." Oh really? I thought the only thing confirmed was the addion of a Toy Story themed ride, not re-dressing of the whole area. Are you sure about that?
Originally Posted By WorldDisney >>So, DCA will eventually have not one, but TWO themed areas completely themed to Pixar films? I guess I might as well get on the bandwagon with the Pixar-ization of the DLR and quit complaining. It ain't easy though.<< Some of us been saying it for years now: Welcome to Pixarland!!! Seriously, just redo the front entrance of DCA to entering the 'Incredibles' city inspired area with all your favorite Incredible super heroes signing autographs. When you done with that, hit Monster's Inc backlot area (TOT ties in nicely with Monster's in a weird way, don't you think?), then hit FFF next, go to GRR OR now the appropriately named "Incredibles island" where the raft ride will now take you on a story fill journey from the movie and the family fight to get off the island with that pesky robot (hey, not bad!). Of course, then there is now Carland where you can hang out with your favorite CARS characters. Let's not forget PP, or now Woody's wacky toy world where the Toy Story characters invade all over with midway mania! California Screaming now has a nice overlay of Buzz and Woody through their way back to the car to make it back to Andy!! We're not through yet though. There is Block Party of course, the nighttime Pixar inspired show and a small area in the Animation studio showcasing Pixar's latest concept art of future movies. It's all Pixar, Pixar, Pixar!!!!! Seriously, its ALL going that way anyway, why fight the future? California? What's that?
Originally Posted By bean Think about it this way. The next Disney/Pixar is ratatouille. no atraction has even been considered for this movie to ever be built in DCA. after that its Wall-E. Also not a pixar movie that would fit anything with DCA. Toys story 3 - well toy story is already being added. And no the pier is not turning into Toy story land. Some people need to stop companing untilt ehy see whats in development for the park. DCA WILL NOT loose its California theme it will just have Disney elements included. As for the old route 66, there are other plans for this land that will completely change it within a few years. As for DCA NEVER having the same attraction count as Disneyland because of restrictions, well we won't know that until the park turns 50. Non of the second or third gates have ever had the same attraction count as the Main kingdom parks. Don't say never though. you have no idea how easy it is to relocate and move things around and alter the parks layout. Disneyland's layout has changed tremendously since its opening date. many would never have guessed that an attraction like Indy could have been placed in adventureland (oh and if westcot had been built this attraction probably would have never since its existence here in anaheim since the spot it was built on was suppose to be a replica of Avalon Coves Casino building at a waters edge for a much larger DTD but thats another story that proves things could easily be changed and moved) As for Carland. Yes it might have the Disney Pixar characters but its main theme is a California desert
Originally Posted By bean no Condor flats is schedule to get a facelift as well as the entrance and the Suncourt. There are actually several projects that are being finalized for the park including the addition of several attraction within the next five years Say bye to the golden gate bridge.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt Marcie wrote that the GG Bridge might be redesigned to look more like an unspecified bridge from LA. While I generally keep most of my opinions to myself until I see the final project, I have to say that this sounds downright stupid. I mean c'mon, what better man-made symbol of California is there than the GG Bridge?
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>Disneyland's layout has changed tremendously since its opening date.<< Actually, Disneyland's basic footprint remains intact. Numerous additions have been made, but the original park is still there. As for the Indiana Jones show building, it was actually included in the original plans for WestCot. The lagoon and Avalon inspired structures accupied the area that is presently DownTown Disney and the west esplanade.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>...what better man-made symbol of California is there than the GG Bridge?<< Complete agreement here. The idea is that the Golden Gate serves as the symbolic entrance to California. Unfortunately, there was nothing to really support this idea in the rest of the disjointed architecture that made up the entrance experience for DCA. (But it does serve to establish a major weakness in the park overall!)
Originally Posted By ArchtMig >>>Marcie wrote that the GG Bridge might be redesigned to look more like an unspecified bridge from LA.<<< Not bridge. Freeway overpass, as in the more ornate concrete overpasses that were built in the 1930s. Some still exist today. If Disney intends to transform the entrance and hub area into a "1930s Transportation" themed concept, then the freeway overpass idea would make sense. >>>I have to say that this sounds downright stupid. I mean c'mon, what better man-made symbol of California is there than the GG Bridge?<<< I agree that the majesty of the REAL GG Bridge is second to none, and as a symbol of California, ranks at or near the top of the list. But the stupid cartooney foreshortened squished down GG bridge that was stuck in the front of DCA was just another example of the amateurish design and planning that DCA suffers from. And since the park has put such a bad taste in the collective mouths of the public, I'm sure Disney is looking for any relatively inexpensive opportunity to remove things that remind folks of the Old DCA in their effort to transform the park into the New DCA. So Good Riddance to Bad Rubbish, I say.
Originally Posted By bean "As for the Indiana Jones show building, it was actually included in the original plans for WestCot. The lagoon and Avalon inspired structures accupied the area that is presently DownTown Disney and the west esplanade." wrong and it could easily be proved by just seeing all the conceptuial art released by Burbank when the project was announced. Oh and i know that the original mainstreet adn hub layout is still intact. But he park has changed dramaticaaly since its opening date. Walkways have been relocated, planters have been moved and additions have been done. Even full rivers are no longer visible to guests that were there in openind day. When New Orleans was added that whole section of the park with its bridge over the river connecting the rivers of america to jungle cruise has been blocked from guest views.
Originally Posted By bean I agree that the Golden gate is s ymbol known world wide for California but like DlandDug said there was no coehesive story elements in the sun court to to support the reasoning to have the bridge at the entrance and a small San francisco section on the other corner of the park
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>wrong and it could easily be proved by just seeing all the conceptuial art released by Burbank when the project was announced.<< I have the brochure with the conceptual art and Resort layout in front of me. There is a large show building in the location where the Indiana Jones attraction was eventually built. >>Oh and i know that the original mainstreet adn hub layout is still intact. But he park has changed dramaticaaly since its opening date.<< Main Street, the Hub, Adventureland, Frontierland, Fantasyland, and Tomorrowland are all in the same locations, accessed by the same walkways, and feature the same major structures and waterways. As noted, additions have been made. The biggest change to the original footprint are the connections that were added between lands. But no major changes were made to the original footprint to achieve this. The "river" described above was nothing more than a small waterway no more than the width of the bridge. That waterway still exists, although it is now buried beneath the pavement of New Orleans Square. We agree that Disneyland has, indeed, changed. But I disagree that the original layout has been significantly altered.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 Well, except for the additions of Toontown, and Critter Country. Also, Tomorrowland has changed radically since 1955. The railroad tracks have been pushed out a few times. I suppose major things like the Jungle Cruise and Rivers of America have not moved, but the things around them sure are different. Even the area with Big Thunder Mountain, Trail, and Ranch has changed dramatically since the old Stage Coach and Mine Train days. Ok, lands haven't been torn out whole-cloth, but they have certainly made use of the space that is there and radically altered much of it.
Originally Posted By DlandDug Here is a rendering of the propsed Resort, including WESTCOT, that was released in 1991: <a href="http://www.mickeynews.com/Columns/Images/Westcotpainting.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.mickeynews.com/Colu mns/Images/Westcotpainting.jpg</a> Look at the show buildings between the monorail track and the Rivers of America. (That's just to the left of center, across from the "casino" building based on Avalon.) There are three buildings. The one at the bottom is the Haunted Mansion, the center one is Pirates of the Caribbean, and the top one (adjacent to the Casino) is the proposed Indiana Jones building. It's much more evident in the plan view.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>Ok, lands haven't been torn out whole-cloth, but they have certainly made use of the space that is there and radically altered much of it.<< I agree with that. I should have mentioned that the other major change was the relocation of the berm and railroad tracks on the west and north sides of the property.
Originally Posted By bean I know what building you are talking about but if i remember correctly that was not an intended Indiana Jones show room. i will have to check and refresh my memeory what that building was.
