Originally Posted By jdub >>I work with a lot of people from India.<< OH! LOL, Since I listened to all of this on the radio, I hadn't seen his face, and the pronunciation of his name was very anglicized: "JINdle." Didn't think anything of it. This discussion caused me to look up his photos online. Gotcha. And I STILL think he sounds very condescending.
Originally Posted By jdub >>HuffingtonPost is comparing Jindal to Kenneth the Page (30 Rock). << LOL, PERFECT.
Originally Posted By utahjosh <HuffingtonPost is comparing Jindal to Kenneth the Page (30 Rock). > That's exactly what I said to my wife while watching it last night.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Most of all, I enjoyed his sneering at science. "Something called volcano monitoring" he said with a disbelieving chuckle. Did he not learn anything when Sarah Palin dismissed science in a similar manner during the campaign, ridiculing "fruit fly studies"? These buffoons want to slash away at the stimulus bill with no sense of what they're slashing. If it sounds militaristic, they're for it, regardless. If it sounds new-agey, it's out. Even our friends at Fox News get it... >>After President Obama's speech on the economy last night, Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal criticized government spending in the stimulus bill, citing examples including "$140 million for something called 'volcano monitoring.'" The $140 million to which Jindal referred is actually for a number of projects conducted by the United States Geological Survey, including volcano monitoring. This monitoring is aimed at helping geologists understand the inner workings of volcanoes as well as providing warnings of impending eruptions, in the United States and in active areas around the world where U.S. military bases are located.<< <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,500267,00.html" target="_blank">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0...,00.html</a>
Originally Posted By vbdad55 ^^^^^^^^^ while important work - does it belong in a 'save the country now' stimulus ?
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Yes, because it creates jobs. And by predicting eruptions in populated areas, it will save untold lives and dollars in the long run. He wasn't dismissing it because it was in the stimulus. He was dismissing it as ridiculous on its face. "Something called volcano monitoring." He tried to make it sound wasteful and ridiculous. He didn't say "This is important work, but it must wait." He tried to make it sound like pork. It isn't, anymore than hurricane monitoring could be considered pork.
Originally Posted By utahjosh You want pork, Kar2oonMan? Sure, they all "create jobs." But couldn't that defend the porkiest project you can imagine? Here you go: $185,000 for coral reef research and preservation in Maui County, Hawaii $55,000 in meteorological equipment for Pierce College in Woodland Hills, Calif. $9.9 million for science enhancement at historically black colleges in South Carolina. Among the earmarked projects in the bill are $764,000 for the Lake George Watershed Protection Initiative in New York, requested by Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, New York Democrat; $951,500 Sustainable Las Vegas. Berkeley and Reid sponsors. $24,000 A+ for Abstinence. Specter is sponsor. $300,000 Montana World Trade Center. Rehberg sponsor. $190,000 Buffalo Bill Historical Center, Cody, WY for digitizing and editing the Cody collection. Barbara Cubin is the sponsor $143,000 Las Vegas Natural History Museum, Las Vegas, NV, to expand natural history education programs. Sponsored by Harry Reid $238,000 for the Polynesian Voyaging Society, Honolulu, HI, for educational programs. Sen. Daniel Inouye is the sponsor. $381,000 for Jazz at Lincoln Center, New York, NY for music education programs. Jerrold Nadler is the sponsor. Sen. Thad Cochran of Mississippi, the top Republican on Senate Appropriations, backs earmarks including a $950,000 nature education center in Moss Point, Miss. He defends earmarks.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/25/jindal.reaction/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITI...dex.html</a> Apparently Jindal was ripped from all sides.
Originally Posted By DAR <<Yes, because it creates jobs. And by predicting eruptions in populated areas, it will save untold lives and dollars in the long run.>> You get a couple of old geezers, a porch, some rocking chairs, have one of them look up and say "Volcanoe's actin up." There solved. I also heard there was money for flood prevention. You can't prevent floods, they're going to happen. That's like trying to monitor gravity In my 34 1/2 years I've learned that eventually gravity will win out.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>I also heard there was money for flood prevention. You can't prevent floods, they're going to happen.<< Oh no ... it's spreading!
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <You can't prevent floods, they're going to happen. > You can't prevent floods per se. But "flood prevention" normally refers to things like restoring wetlands that naturally "soak up" waters that would otherwise flood populated areas.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 And Josh, I'm with you that some of those things didn't belong in the stimulus bill. But I thought many were taken out. What was your source? Is it recent or a couple of weeks old?
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>You get a couple of old geezers, a porch, some rocking chairs, have one of them look up and say "Volcanoe's actin up." There solved.<< Yes, that is often Republican plan.
Originally Posted By DAR If they want to do Volcano Monitoring then have the states where there are volcanoes pay for it. We don't have volcanoes here, why should I pay for that. I wouldn't expect someone in Florida to pay for Snow Monitoring up here.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>We don't have volcanoes here, why should I pay for that.<< Did you even read the article? We are 50 united states. There are bigger issue things -- like disaster preparedness -- that benefits all of us to absorb the cost. These things are in our national interest, not just local interest. A major disaster in any state has impacts and implications far beyond the borders of that one state.
